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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 12-23-2016, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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New front end completed!

Well, I finally got the parts installed on my front end.

Everything was purchased from rockauto AS an ACDelco item. (see notes below)

Upper and lower control arms with bushings and ball joints. (made in USA)
Urethane sway bar bushings and end links. (note end link bushings were made by MOOG in the USA, 4DoorSS this is your calling )
Inner and outer tie rods with new adjustment sleeves. (3 made in USA and 1 in taiwan, thanks rockauto)
Center link and Idler arm. (made in USA)
Shocks. (COO unknown)
Bottom out rubbers. (apparently the old shocks were so bad that I bottomed out the thing and split the passenger side rubber, hmmm)

In all, I pulled the car in the garage on monday morning, and drove it off the ramps today at 1045. So it took me 4.5 days. Should have been about 3, but my endless trips to harbor freight and autozone (both are a mile away) really added up. Oh and I stripped the castle nut for the upper driver side ball joint, that was a 2 hour ordeal.. Basically it was a lot of me learning a lot of crap and making wayyyy to many mistakes.

One thing I wish I did was purchase new springs as the current ones SAG. Outside of that, it went really well. Got everything torqued correctly, lower control arms bolts torqued once car was under its own weight!!!, and it drives frikin nice. There is no more dead spot in the steering. Which was originally caused by a center link/steering gear joint, but all the seals were blown out on the tie rods and ball joints because I SWEAR they would put like 15 or 20 pumps of grease in them at each oil change. I have pictures to back this claim up. I really did save this car from hell, seriously, nobody would have gone this deep into this thing. She should be a good one for a while now!

So anyway. I have like 30 pictures that ill post up here soon. Figured it was worth posting about. Pics or didnt happen, I know. lol

94 RMSB 170K Sat 5 years, ran for 1 of those then remained untouched for 4. Sat because it was slapped by a deer and the owners didnt want to fix it for whatever reason.
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Future? Probably pull engine, reseal it, and run it a lot more. Looking to get 250k out of it. PRAYING for 300k.
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post #2 of 56 (permalink) Old 12-24-2016, 08:44 AM
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..... because I SWEAR ---> they <--- would put like 15 or 20 pumps of grease in them at each oil change. .....
Strong start, but lost all creds here.... What in the ever livin' hell you doon lettin' "they" touch your car? And especially oil changes? (plural?) Pay 100% over cost for suspect undocumented materials, plus opportunity for collateral damage - especially stripped bolt, and those special stupid discussions over having the tranny 'serviced'....

Pics of new manly jacks and stands and tools to do more of your own work may salvage your rep.

Seriously, replacing the entire bunch of parts at once provides impressive handling improvement and feel.
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Seriously, replacing the entire bunch of parts at once provides impressive handling improvement and feel.
Yessir...always nice to do it all if you can and get a Good Alignment.

Smelonas - On your 2 Hr. ordeal with a stripped Castle Nut on the Ball Joint...what actually happened? Did the just Spin and not want to come off? If so, been there myself but there is actually a real easy, quick inexpensive fix....Just cut your Nut Off. Sounds painful I know but that's why you have 2....one of the other Balljoint.

Anyway, I have had some where the Ball Stud just spins in the housing and the Castle Nut wont come off. Time to get out the (since it's the Season)....NutCracker. Really, its a Nut SPlitter.



Pretty inexspensive and Harbor Freight has them dirt cheap. If you break it, just take it back for replacement. This tool has got me out of a few messes over the years. Cut the nut from 1 side, spin it 180* and cut the nut in half....EZ PZ
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I just used my dremel to cut through one of the corners on the nut then before I cut through to the threads on the ball joint, just hit the part I ground down with a screwdriver and hammer and that allowed the threads in the nut to grab and it spun right off. One way to do it. Saved me another 30 minutes versus going to some store to get a tool. Which is also more money..

It stripped the nut and it would just spin. Tried a couple other little things, but it wouldn't come off. Out came the dremel and in 10 minutes it was coming off.

I do all my own work. I bought this car a year and 6 months ago with 147k. Plenty of damage had been done at that point. I have done nothing but FIX things on this car. I pay no one to work on any vehicle I own.

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94 RMSB 170K Sat 5 years, ran for 1 of those then remained untouched for 4. Sat because it was slapped by a deer and the owners didnt want to fix it for whatever reason.
Mods, all the free good ones.
Future? Probably pull engine, reseal it, and run it a lot more. Looking to get 250k out of it. PRAYING for 300k.
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I do all my own work. I bought this car a year and 6 months ago with 147k. Plenty of damage had been done at that point. I have done nothing but FIX things on this car. I pay no one to work on any vehicle I own.

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Ah So, then the same previous owner who did all the damage was the same mentality to use oil change places. Check. As you say, good to bring one back from being doomed to the scrap pile.

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I work my ass off to bring things up to my standard. My paychecks get stretched really far to buy tools and parts

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94 RMSB 170K Sat 5 years, ran for 1 of those then remained untouched for 4. Sat because it was slapped by a deer and the owners didnt want to fix it for whatever reason.
Mods, all the free good ones.
Future? Probably pull engine, reseal it, and run it a lot more. Looking to get 250k out of it. PRAYING for 300k.
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That's cool....whatever works. Nothing wrong with the Dremel, but if you ever see those Nut Splitters cheap enough, you'll be glad you have them handy. Cutting like you said worked fine but no Sparks or metal filings on the suspension if you use the splitter. I've used a Dremel before for other stuff and it can get tedious at times. Not knocking your method at all just sharing a different way and for $10ish, it's a great little helper. I've done it both ways myself, just find that when the situation requires it and I can get a splitter on it....it's way easier IMHHO.

With the splitter, it just takes a few cranks of a wrench/ratchet once you get it on the Nut and they usually "Pop" when you cut through 1 side or just cut the other side and it falls off. It's worth mentioning that you can sometimes just crimp down on the nut a little before splitting it and THEN try to wrench it off. I've had some success with this too where the nut just spins but when crimping the nut "just a little", it may get the threads to bite again and come off.

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I will consider! I have a cordless Dremel and it worked awesome. I just got right in there and got it done! Here are some pics to show you guys what I meant in my first post.



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94 RMSB 170K Sat 5 years, ran for 1 of those then remained untouched for 4. Sat because it was slapped by a deer and the owners didnt want to fix it for whatever reason.
Mods, all the free good ones.
Future? Probably pull engine, reseal it, and run it a lot more. Looking to get 250k out of it. PRAYING for 300k.
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94 RMSB 170K Sat 5 years, ran for 1 of those then remained untouched for 4. Sat because it was slapped by a deer and the owners didnt want to fix it for whatever reason.
Mods, all the free good ones.
Future? Probably pull engine, reseal it, and run it a lot more. Looking to get 250k out of it. PRAYING for 300k.
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I have never been out against grease that was hard that it refused to come off no matter what. It was on the hub, it was on the spring, it was on disc shield. This stuff was everywhere and it was hard, full of grit and impossible to get off. Well, it's all gone now! I don't have any pics of it done... I was sooooo frikin excited it was ready to drive I forgot to do that.

So there ya go. A kind of time line of how things went.

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94 RMSB 170K Sat 5 years, ran for 1 of those then remained untouched for 4. Sat because it was slapped by a deer and the owners didnt want to fix it for whatever reason.
Mods, all the free good ones.
Future? Probably pull engine, reseal it, and run it a lot more. Looking to get 250k out of it. PRAYING for 300k.
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