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Heightened OEM Wheels ?

Hunting to upsize from 15" to 18" on the Fleetwood, and don't mind the look of modifying my existing chrome Vogues if it provides an economical solution. Is there a wheel shop that can use a new hoop to increase the diameter of an existing rim? Online search brings up nothing, but I will be calling the shop in Michigan who widened my SS stock rears to see if they've done it or know who does.

I'm comparing options to the alternate of going with Escalade or CTS and spacer/adapters.

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Well, I've stumped 5 dozen of ya's so far eh. James at Weldcraft says he's been asked before, but doesn't know anyone increasing diameters. Anyone else?

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What wheels do you have? Are they two-piece or one piece? A photo would be helpful.

I suspect with extremely high probability that you are SOL. Up-sizing in diameter via re-hooping is something that has limited application and availability.

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They came with the car. Vogue Octavo. Not at all offensive looking for a bonestocker:




There'd be plenty enough meat left after slicing off the hoop to find a 'correct offset' donor and "weld'er-up" IMO.



If I'm dumb enough to have thought of it, then someone only slightly crazier has bound to have tried it.

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How would the bead ever meet the outside of the rim? There's a reason that nobody's ever heard of doing this...

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A good machinist with a big enough lathe, and then finding a proper donor wheel that could have the center machined out for a hoop while retaining valve stem hole or space to add it... could be doable. Practical? Cost effective? Probably not even close. But you'd be able to get the offset of your choice to boot.
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Hey Bob give me a call.
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Address: 2489 N Lark Dr, Fenton, MO 63026
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He will do that for you. I just picked up a set of the stock Impala SS wheels he reconditioned. They are amazing!!! He machined all the rough surface from each spoke and around the inner edge, completely straighten and refinished all four. He has a CNC wheel machine that he will do anything and he is very good at it.
If anyone else needs a set redone and any wheel work give these guys a call. He does them on the side for $500 for all four in any condition with free tire mounting and balancing.
or text me if you need help 314-681-6918
I am not associated with this company, except that I live a few minutes away ,and make no profit for this, but this guy does great work.
Ill post some pic up tommorrow
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They came with the car. Vogue Octavo. Not at all offensive looking for a bonestocker...
Yeah. You aren't going to be able to increase the diameter of those in a cost-effective manner that still looks good.

Time to look for alternatives or stick with the 15" size.

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Hey Bob give me a call.
On-Site Wheel repair
Address: 2489 N Lark Dr, Fenton, MO 63026
Phone: (314) 200-9121
He will do that for you. I just picked up a set of the stock Impala SS wheels he reconditioned. They are amazing!!! He machined all the rough surface from each spoke and around the inner edge, completely straighten and refinished all four. He has a CNC wheel machine that he will do anything and he is very good at it.
If anyone else needs a set redone and any wheel work give these guys a call. He does them on the side for $500 for all four in any condition with free tire mounting and balancing.
or text me if you need help 314-681-6918
I am not associated with this company, except that I live a few minutes away ,and make no profit for this, but this guy does great work.
Ill post some pic up tommorrow
Thanks for the lead. Before putting to pasture I called and left message and we'll see if they've heard of this type of rework.

I had the oem fronts refinished on my SS last year by a different franchise. They'd been holding up quite well until I parked it outside this month while working on my Cady. The clear quickly started clouding and then spalling at the bottom of a couple spokes on each wheel and got pretty corroded. Quite the mystery until I noticed our little ratdog had taken to peeing on them - that's some seriously acidic #### coming out of that critter! And only $250 down the drain.

I'd like to see pics of the microturning and mottled finish all smoothed.

\'96SS SOB: SSRI, Herter Tune, Tri-Y II, SLP SS, 3000 Edge, F/HO bars, METCO extendeds and CV MMC, Bilsteins, currently Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta (315/35 rear)
\'96FWB BUW-Butt Ugly White: SS Bars, METCO LCAs, Koni Reds, PowerTrax No-Slip

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The cost IMHO wouldn't be worth it, even if you find someone willing to do it?

You'd need to find suitable donor wheels. To go from 15-18" creates a large gap to fill/match to centers.
I doubt you'd wind up with something that looked identical to what you have when completed.
Not to mention if they aren't perfect when completed you will have 4 very expensive pieces of scrap.

You'd probably be $ ahead simply buying a new larger set? Or having a new set of custom wheels made.
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