2014 ISSCA Results - Autocross - Car Show - Sound Off

jking1118 said:

Yep. Post #6. http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=355537

Is this what you were looking for Norm?

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Those are just the bracket results, Norm wants Super Natural and Super Pro I am sure.

Here you go:

Pat (#200) vs Roger #2050), SUPER NATURAL FINALS:


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SUPER NATURAL ROUND BY ROUND RESULTS:



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SUPER PRO QUALIFYING



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SUPER PRO RESULTS (FINALS RAINED OUT)



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SSMITTY's 8.50 run (car #1413)

Car Show and Sound Off Results - for Timmay!



Hendrick Motorsports, Concord NC

IMPALA SS

Impala SS - Stock – under 60K miles
No cars entered

Impala SS - Street – under 60K miles
1. Bob Ingram – 143 points
2. Mike Sabol – 142

Impala SS - Modified – under 60K miles
No cars entered

Impala SS - Stock – 60K-120K miles
1. John Williamson – 185.5
2. Dan Gersch - 107

Impala SS - Street – 60K-120K miles
1. Marco Bucchi - 145
2. Michael Reck – 140

Impala SS - Modified – 60K-120K miles
1. Tom Connelly – 169.5
2. Bob Nobling – 168.5

Impala SS - Stock – 120K+ miles
1. Kelly Mock – 178.5

Impala SS - Street – 120K+ miles
1. Thomas Bauman – 163
2. Tony & SSally Maiale – 157

Impala SS - Modified – 120K+ miles
1. Ivan Scerri – 178.5
2. Allan Igarashi – 175


OTHER B-BODY (non-Impala SS)

B-Body - Stock – 120K+ miles
1. Ernest Reck – 154 points

B-Body - Street – 60K-120K miles
1. Lorne Jay - 118

B-Body - Street – 120K+ miles
1. Charles Moutoux – 125

B-Body - Modified – 60K-120K miles
1. Randy Hyman - 106


B-Body - Modified – 120K+ miles
1. Doug Wood – 165.5
2. Mike Hanlon - 133


“NEW” BODY (PPV, Chevrolet SS)

New Body - Stock – under 60K miles
1. Bob Lynch – 177
2. Bill Harper – 176

WAGONS

Wagon – Any mileage
1. Phillip Sheffield – 156.5
2. Chad White - 137

DRAG RACE CLASS (the nastier and less street-legal the better)

Drag Race Car Show Class – Any mileage
1. Mike “SSmitty” Smith
2. Roger Amende
3. Stormin’ Norman Pelton

CHINO BARRETO – SPIRIT of ISSCA People’s Choice Award 2014:
Patrick Whelan

BEST of ISSCA2014: (Combination of points for Car Show, Sound-Off, Autocross, Road Race, and Drag Race)
Kelly Mock

The following ISSCA Members all achieved Car Show Excellence and were recognized by ISSCA for scoring over 100 points in the car show:

ISSCA Car Show Excellence – 100+ points - All classes

1. John Williamson – 181+190 = 185.5 points -avg of 2 judges – CLASS WINNER
2. Ivan Scerri – 178+179 = 178.5 – CLASS WINNER
3. Kelly Mock – 171+186= 178.5 – CLASS WINNER
4. Bob Lynch – 175+179= 177 – CLASS WINNER
5. Bill Harper – 175+177= 176

6. Allen “Iggy” Igarashi – 174+176= 175
7. Bill DeBlasio – 167+178= 172.5
8. Bob Nobling – 174+165= 169.5 – CLASS WINNER
9. Tom Connelly – 167+170= 168.5 – CLASS WINNER
10. Tim Shepard – 165+169= 167

11. Doug Wood – 152+179= 165.5 – CLASS WINNER
12. Thomas Bauman – 163+163= 163 – CLASS WINNER
13. Howard Rothstein – 160+165= 162.5
14. Tony & SSally Maiale – 162+152= 157
15. Phillip Sheffield – 141+172= 156.5 – CLASS WINNER

16. Ernest Reck – 157+151= 154 – CLASS WINNER
17. Paul Troup – 144+158= 151
18. Emiliano Chapa – 149+153= 151
19. Marco Bucchi – 157+133= 145 – CLASS WINNER
20. Bob Ingram – 136+151= 143.5 – CLASS WINNER

21. Mike&Jean Sabol – 148+137= 142.5
22. Chuck Leshinsky – 143+141= 142
23. Michael Reck – 127+154= 140.5
24. Chad White – 134+140= 137
25. Timmay Fiordaliso – 132+140= 136

26. Mike Hanlon – 134+133= 133.5
27. Pat Whelan – 126+132= 129
28. Rick Meyer – 126+127= 126.5
29. Heath Buchanan – 129+123= 126
30. Charles Moutoux – 127+123= 125 – CLASS WINNER

31. Josh Peters – 117+120= 118.5
32. Lorne Jay – 126+110= 118 – CLASS WINNER
33. Travis Montague – 119+112= 115.5
34. Anthony Luistro – 115+115= 115
35. John Monsegur – 120+109= 114.5

36. Gerry Grabner – 104+122= 113
37. Chris Fish – 114+103= 108.5
38. Daniel Gersch – 109+106= 107.5
39. Jonathan King – 86+128= 107
40. Jonathan Jordan – 103+110= 106.5

41. Stew Drozd – 129+83= 106
42. Randy Hyman – 105+107= 106 – CLASS WINNER
43. Sean Collins – 99+104= 101.5
44. Dave Goshorn – 124+76 = 100
45. Ken Hennessey – 106+94= 100
46. Bill Fife – 99+99= 99 (honorable mention of the honorable mentions)






David Fornwalt Memorial Sound Off Competition sponsored by High-Tech Electronics

0-600 Watts
1. Anthony Luistro
2. Tim Fiordaliso

600+ Watts
1. Dan Gersch
2. Tim Shepard

Timmay;
I tolded you I'd get it done!

Lorne;
Car show judging is a funny thing. There is so much to say about it.

First of all, to make it fair, that's why we have TWO judges for each car AND we have them do the whole class. So that way even if your car is judged hard that same 'hard' judge will/should judge hard across the whole class, thereby (theoretically) evening the playing field.

Second point - a car show is not as much about LOOKS (because damn your car was sharp looking) but about how the scoring system works at car shows. Take a look at an ISSCA scoring sheet, it's more about sheer cleanliness than looks or styling. A car with a dent that is cleaner than a perfect car that has some dirt will score better by strict ISSCA scoring standards.

One of the issues is that the ISSCA car show scoring system was developed close to when these cars were new. So most fell in low mileage and stock categories so the only way to differentiate was to see who could clean theirs better. We have been talking for a few years about how to update our scoring system without opening a huge can of worms. No one has the time or wants the backlash to attempt it yet lol.

Example - A few people came up to me and said that they thought I should have won in my class because they liked my car better than the people that finished ahead of me. I disagreed with them strongly. Taste is a unquantifiable subject, so you can't judge on what a certain person likes and doesn't like. I mean I guess subconsciously you do to a degree but you aren't supposed to judge that way.

You have to judge by the points system. You see, it's not a FASHION SHOW, it's a car show which really is a contest to see who can detail better-er.

So I firmly believe the cars that finished ahead of me deserved it WAY more than I did, their cars were spotless and clean and shiny and polished and their owners worked very hard to get them that way. They were some impressive rides. I was in awe at their cleanliness. Yes, mine was raced hard all week and had some dirt that I wasn't going to get off but those are the breaks. Next year I go in the Drag Race Car Show Class lol. I was pretty much the top points getter for a car that didn't win anything but that's the way it goes, I know I'm in the toughest class out there since my class is highly modified cars so I never expect to win. The only car ahead of me that also didn't win something was Harper and his new PPV came in 2nd by a hair against another brand new car (2014 SS) so he still got a trophy IIRC.

That's why we have some Peoples Choice Awards (Spirit of Chino) and the STP/Armour All Award and the Hendrick Award etc. That way people can pick overall packages that appeal to them that may not be the most perfectly detailed.

Finally, there could always be human error. We take all the sheets and Pat and crew bust butt to tally them, add them again, compile onto spreadsheets, and figure out who is in what class and who wins. I can't tell you how difficult that is to do manually. Last year we forget someone's sheet and didn't rectify it until he came forward. It wasn't on purpose but that gentleman was so upset he asked for his money back and left ISSCA. We are humans trying to compile all that in just a few minutes after the show, plus calculate Best of ISSCA, etc. So...I hate to say it but there is always the chance of a mistake. We really really try and check and re-check but it happens.

Hope that helps a little...