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Over the years, there has been much discussion about body mount servicing, upgrades to 9C1 configuration, addition of the "Mueller Mod", etc. There are quite a few threads--both before & after the Great Aug. 2009 Data Loss (some of which may now be restored).

Without attempting to cite all of the threads, here are a couple to put the issue into perspective:

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=255855

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=324490

Other than what some B-body owners have managed to hoard, the supply of OE body mount parts is now virtually exhausted. There are some aftermarket suppliers that have kits in both rubber & polyurethane that can be used, but generally it has been with mixed results.

For those who would be interested, there may be an opportunity to get new rubber body mounts made that are as close to OE in all respects as possible, through a reputable aftermarket source--at this point, who that may be is not important.

The reason for this new thread is to gauge interest. The supply source would need to buy a minimum of 5000 pieces (assuming that will be a mix of specific parts/mounts that would make up a full car set). The supplier would be more interested in doing this as a quantity buy--ie. Group Purchase--both for their own ROI (return on investment) and to be able to offer the kit at the best price possible, by way of the savings being passed on for a larger quantity buy from their source.

The mounts used on B-body are not totally unique to that platform--there were many GM vehicles from about 1973 all the way to the 96 B that used similar or many of the same mounts--as the supplier has more than the B-body in mind when making their plans for having these mounts made.

The configuration that would result and be offered for a Group Purchase would MOST likely be the 94-96 9C1 (7B3) mounts, and the "Mueller Mod" lower cushions ARE NOT anticipated to be part of the offering. For Impala SS restoration purists, I'm not sure what can or would be done to provide the "exact" mounts for non-9C1 cars.

A full replacement set of 14 (7 per side) upper/lower body mounts, as appropriate (#5 is upper only), including bolts, spacers, washers, etc, is what is anticipated (not certain whether there will be radiator core support cushions as part of this effort). Kit cost would likely be in the $250 - $300 range for everything. That is comparable to some of the aftermarket rubber kits offered for other GM models currently--and no doubt competitive with the OE parts, IF they were still available.

Again, the real purpose of opening this thread is not to extend discussion or dissect the mount issue further. At this point, what is needed is to be able to demonstrate, to the supplier, what the level of interest for this is, in the 91-96 B-body community.

To be clear, I am only a facilitator--I will have no financial interest, nor any direct involvement beyond gathering the information requested here or, if requested, to provide technical data, samples or other information to the supplier, that might be useful to help bring this effort to reality. If a GP results, I do not expect to run it--that will be either the supplier or (and I'm stepping beyond a possible boundary here) perhaps a club could organize & run it--and if they make money in the process, good for them for getting involved!

Whether you post here, PM me, e-mail me (or all 3), the first thing needed is a "show of hands"--please respond, if interested!

Who is in?
 

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I'm Interested

Let's do this !!!!!
 

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Bill, how timely (for me). I am just resurrecting my project and was looking around at options since the mounts are in pretty bad shape (both pictures below are of the same bushing). There is a set of Energy Suspension urethane bushings on the shelf that I bought probably 10 years ago, but would much rather have a set of 9C1 bushings. If I knew then (back when they were readily available) what I know now, I would have bought about 5 sets just to have handy.

If this works out, I will happily take two sets.
 

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Heck yeah, I would be interested in a set. Would like to see the price lower though. Thanks for trying to get this finally done.
 

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Great idea, thanks for bringing this up. I would definitely be in plus we can send this around to local clubs, etc.
 

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If it includes bolts and washers then count me in... I had to hit the local yard to get a good bolt and washer ...
 

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Bill I would be in for a set.

Thanks for getting this more attention. I hope it will run its course to completion. Interest fades quickly when parting with hard earned money.

Curtis
 

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I'm in.
 

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Cost

With kits available in the $100 range (ES) the price may need to be lower for a mass appeal.
I'm sure you'll get the usual deep pockets to commit for a few sets but for the numbers you mention in quantity for production price could be an issue.
Maybe working with an established supplier to fine tune their current set would be a option.
I'd love to see an OEM style set complete with all the hardware but not everyone will dig that deep to pay for it.
The typical SS owner has shifted significantly over the years as has his budget range....

That being said any effort to keep or supply parts for our cars is OK with me.
I'd take a set. Then I have to decide which car gets it.............
 

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I'm in Bill!!!

If it has all the 9C1 locations and Grade 8 bolts I'm in . Going to need a set very soon. About to do a frame off chassis reinforcement project.
 

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If it has.....Grade 8 bolts
The intent is to match OE spec--Metric/ISO-spec does not use the SAE/ASME fastener "grade" rating system, so bolts will be identified by Class:

Metric Hex Bolts

The dimensions of metric bolts are based on the metric system. They are usually not interchangeable with standard bolts and have 6 commonly available classifications. Metric hex bolts are identified using numbers that are stamped on the flat part of the bolts head. Metric bolts with low numbers indicate weaker bolts while higher numbers indicate a tougher and more heat resistant bolt. The numbers used in the metric rating system include 4.5, 4.8, 5.6, 8.8, 9.8 and 10.9 with 4.5 being the weakest bolt and 10.9 being the strongest.

Just for example--to compare: (these may or may not meet/match OE specs--have not looked at OE mount bolts to see if they are 8.8, 10.9, or some other grade)

Class 10.9 - Metric
Metric Flange-Head High-Strength Steel—Class 10.9
Nonmarring flanged screws are fully threaded and have a Class 6g thread fit.

Grade 8 - Inch
Flange-Head High-Strength Steel—Grade 8
The flange increases contact area to give you extra holding power without a separate washer.

Not being "Grade 8" shouldn't be a show-stopper.

Colin - the OE bolts for mounts I have here are Class 10.9
 

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i would be in for a set.if its the entire 9c1 set.
 
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