ABS delete stainless hard lines

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SSandman

Discussion Starter · Jun 6, 2015

Anyone know of any vendors that sell pre-bent stainless steel hardlines for B bodies routed for an ABS delete? I really would like to do stainless, but bending stainless line is a pain in the ass and I'd rather not have to spend time bending stuff up if I can just bolt something in (I have enough to do on this car in a short period of time).

I thought I remembered talk about somebody making them, but don't know if it ever came to be. It was a while ago.

Thanks!

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Fred Kiehl

· #2 · Jun 7, 2015

I do not know if they are made in stainless, but the 89 and 90 B-body lines will fit.

SSandman

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 7, 2015

Fred Kiehl said:
I do not know if they are made in stainless, but the 89 and 90 B-body lines will fit.

Awesome! thanks Fred, I know of a few places that may be able to duplicate them in stainless as long as they have a current design to work with on file. I'll let you guys know what I find out for anyone else interested in doing stainless prebent lines with ABS delete.

4DoorSS

· #4 · Jun 8, 2015

SSandman said:
I'll let you guys know what I find out for anyone else interested in doing stainless prebent lines with ABS delete.

I would be very interested in what you find out. There are other threads where this was brought up before but can't remember if anything was ever found. I may search for it later.

But companies like Classic Tube and Inline Tube sell kits for other cars. If the early box style fit our cars (assuming the fittings are the same), that could be a good possibility. Stainless would be nice, but at this point I would be willing to go with reg. steel if they bolted right up. Good time to look at a new Master Cylinder from CPP while doing this.

Toms9C1

· #5 · Jun 9, 2015

The stainless lines are offered for about 20-30 bucks more. Interested if 89-90 box lines would fit 91-96.

4DoorSS

· #6 · Jun 9, 2015

Check post 4 of this thread for more info.

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=322161&highlight=Abs+delete+lines

In this thread, it sounded like Dan was looking into getting this done for us and it just petered out.....

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=269566&highlight=Abs+delete+lines

Still interested in seeing if the 89-90 lines work and if the fittings are compatable. Maybe someone will try a set out and let us know.

04Harley

· #7 · Jun 12, 2015

Great timing. I was actually driving around today getting quotes to bend some lines for this purpose. That would be great if there was a pre-made solution.

I was going to put a pro portioning valve on the rear lines, but I wonder if I could fit an after market combination/ proportioning valve in with the '89/'90 lines?

I guess It depends where the '89/'90 lines splist the front brake lines...

4DoorSS

· #8 · Jun 12, 2015

04Harley said:
Great timing. I was actually driving around today getting quotes to bend some lines for this purpose. That would be great if there was a pre-made solution.

I was going to put a pro portioning valve on the rear lines, but I wonder if I could fit an after market combination/ proportioning valve in with the '89/'90 lines?

I guess It depends where the '89/'90 lines splist the front brake lines...

There is already a PV just below the MC and would assume if the Early lines fit our cars, then they must already have a PV in the same area too.

Not sure why you would want to add another, but if you're looking to do something beyond stock, why not consider the CPP Master Cylinder? Its at least a different option for you and are just about $150.

It already has the PV built in and I believe it is adjustable. Check their website for more info on the unit and look at this thread where Mike installed one of these in doing his Vette Upgrade. This MC is one I'm strongly considering when I update my lines but will be keeping the stock Brake Calipers and possibly upgrading to the 9C1 calipers and 614 pads up front.

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=257194&highlight=CPP+Master+Cylinder&page=2

04Harley

· #9 · Jun 14, 2015

4DoorSS said:
There is already a PV...Not sure why you would want to add another...
...why not consider the CPP Master Cylinder? Its at least a different option for you and are just about $150... Mike installed one...

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=257194&highlight=CPP+Master+Cylinder&page=2

I'd like the adjustability, esp when dropping ABS and eventually upgrading calipers. I'm hoping to stop and turn in this big tank!

Thanks for the link. That does look like a suitable option as well.

If I haven't heard back on 89/90 lines in the next few weeks I may be the Guinea Pig...

4DoorSS

· #10 · Jun 14, 2015

04Harley said:
I'd like the adjustability, esp when dropping ABS and eventually upgrading calipers. I'm hoping to stop and turn in this big tank!

Thanks for the link. That does look like a suitable option as well.

If I haven't heard back on 89/90 lines in the next few weeks I may be the Guinea Pig...

I guess someone has to do it and see.

. I found Inline Tube's kit on eBay and they have a picture of the kit there....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-90-Che...-OE-/400916250838?hash=item5d587880d6&vxp=mtr

Maybe from that you can see if it looks like the lines may work. I'm not familiar enough with the routing of the current lines to tell if these would match up.

If the lines are close but the fittings are different, you at least have the lines and could remove the fittings, reuse the original fittings and then just re-flare the ends. This alone may be a better option then needing to bend up the lines.

SSandman

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jun 18, 2015

I may have to bit the bullet on it and try it. I just have to finish some side welding work I have been doing to make a little bit of the extra cash I need and then I'll probably go for it.

I wish there was some way to confirm it first, maybe find an 89 caprice in a junkyard and pull the lines off to test fit them before I go and buy them made in stainless which may not be returnable.

SSandman

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jun 18, 2015

Inline tube sells the "77-90" kit in stainless as well and they also sell a 94-6 B body kit. I am going to email them and ask them if they could compare the fittings to see if they are the same for the 77-90 kit and the 94-6 B body kit. Then all we need to worry about is if it actually fits (which if they allow returns won't be too big of a deal).

I'm willing to bet they could make the 77-90 lines with the same fittings as the 94-6 but it may cost extra.

4DoorSS

· #13 · Jun 18, 2015

SSandman said:
Inline tube sells the "77-90" kit in stainless as well and they also sell a 94-6 B body kit. I am going to email them and ask them if they could compare the fittings to see if they are the same for the 77-90 kit and the 94-6 B body kit. Then all we need to worry about is if it actually fits (which if they allow returns won't be too big of a deal).

I'm willing to bet they could make the 77-90 lines with the same fittings as the 94-6 but it may cost extra.

It seems like Fred was was pretty sure these would fit, maybe he could provide more info on the fittings and if they are the same. If not, you may need to be our Guine pig.

. If you do check this out, I would be very interested in what you find out or maybe the vendor can say for sure before you go through all the trouble.

Fred Kiehl

· #14 · Jun 19, 2015

If the lines are the same size, the fittings should be the same size, but I am not 100 percent sure the are. The lines may also screw into the side of the proportioning valve. If you look at an 89-90 proportioning valve, it should tell you a lot about whether the fittings are the same.

Area 51 Perf

· #15 · Jun 19, 2015

You guys are way over thinking this.

All you need is to get the stock line set and modify that.You use the stock front line going to the ABS from the MC and use a inverted flare T on top of the frame rail and connect the L&R lines and front line from MC together.

The Rear you just rebend and flare it for a union where the frame turns down unde the firewall.

Fred Kiehl

· #16 · Jun 19, 2015

If you already have rusty lines that need replaced, then getting the complete line is the easiest and best way to proceed.

SSandman

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 19, 2015

Area 51 Perf said:
You guys are way over thinking this.

All you need is to get the stock line set and modify that.You use the stock front line going to the ABS from the MC and use a inverted flare T on top of the frame rail and connect the L&R lines and front line from MC together.

The Rear you just rebend and flare it for a union where the frame turns down unde the firewall.

This is definitely better than having to change all the fittings on a 77-90 line set, but I was really hoping there would be something that just straight up bolted in. Probably wishful thinking, but if the 77-90 lines to fit fairly well without much rebending needed and the fittings are all the same then that'll probably be the easiest bet. Only one way to find out though...

4DoorSS

· #18 · Jun 19, 2015

I can appreciate modifying the existing lines and have read other threads on doing this and how. However, having a car with 20+ years of East Coast Driving (aprox. 170K) on stock metal lines, has me considering just replacing them and be done with it. To me, having a new set (possibly Stainless

) that could be installed would be well worth the investment. That's what I thought this thread was about.

To cut the original lines you may also need to invest in a Quality Flaring tool. I would not want something from Harbor Freight for this purpose and a Quality Tool costs good money and I don't flare/Bend lines often if at all. In any case, if we can find a new Set of lines that would bolt up to our cars with ABS removed and require minimal work to install, I think that would be a nice option to have.

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SSandman

Discussion Starter · #19 · Jun 19, 2015

The tech from inline tube wasn't very helpful. He didn't even attempt to find out, just told me he wouldn't know if the fittings were the same or not. He also said there would be a "10-20% restocking fee" if I were to try to exchange the 77-90 lines with the 94-6 lines if they didn't end up fitting. I might try to talk to someone else there and I'll also email Classic Tube who I believe sells both as well.

Toms9C1

· #20 · Jun 19, 2015

I have bought from Classic Tube on 3 diff occasions. Spoke with a few guys there and were very helpful. They may be more receptive in fitment issues.

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