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The ISSCA Board of Directors met in a regular board meeting conducted November 13, 2004. The public minutes of this meeting have been forwarded to the web-master for positing to the ISSCA website, www.goissca.org these minutes were approved in a special online chat meeting called for November 23, 2004.

During its November 13 meeting, the ISSCA Board voted on a motion to terminate the membership of Director Chuck Spera, one of 19 members of the Board on that date. The results of this vote are posted in the meeting minutes.

Action was taken as it had become evident to the majority of the ISSCA Board that the activities of Mr. Spera were not in harmony with the goals and charter of ISSCA. Unacceptable acts of Mr. Spera had been addressed previously face to face and in a letter to him with a warning regarding the consequences of continued acts that were counter to ISSCA and the ISSCA Board's intentions and direction.

Therefore, under Article VI Section 2 subparagraph d. of the ISSCA bylaws (herein after referred to as “the Article”), a vote was conducted that resulted in termination of membership in this case. It is unfortunate Mr. Spera’s disregard of these warnings established a need for the Board to act. There can and will be no winners in this matter, and the Board regrets the action was necessary.

It is the position of the Board of Directors that public disclosure of unacceptable acts of Mr. Spera would cause further embarrassment to Mr. Spera, also there is no benefit from a public discussion of specific events except to further polarize the general membership which is not the goal of the ISSCA leadership.

One underlying concern expressed in public comment regarding this matter has been that the Board of Directors would arbitrarily act to cancel individual memberships in ISSCA. While termination is allowed under the Article as previously noted, actions that would evoke application of the Article would include acts that undermine the Executive Council’s or the Board's ability to perform the business of ISSCA, or generally disrupt the activities of ISSCA. The Article as currently written was duly approved by the Board of Directors (including Mr. Spera) and is necessary so the club, at all levels, may keep order within the organization. It is not an action used lightly nor will it be.

In further public comment there were concerns regarding the letter sent to MISSL by the President of ISSCA regarding the requirements for a Chartered Club to retain its status.

• This letter was advisory in intent, not threatening--nor was it intended to be perceived as a threat.
• ISSCA as a non-profit organization has certain IRS rules and regulations it must follow to remain a non-profit according to its charter.
• ISSCA must audit its Chartered Clubs, when prescribed, to ensure adherence to the established requirements to be chartered.
• To attain and maintain ISSCA Charter, any club must maintain a minimum of three officers that are ISSCA members in good standing, and must maintain a minimum of ten ISSCA members who are not a signatory to any other Chartered Club application.

In this specific instance, Mr. Spera no longer may serve as a signatory for Chartered Club status within ISSCA, therefore, if MISSL wishes to retain charter, another officer, with ISSCA membership, needs to be identified to update the current Charter application for the club.

ISSCA is presently in the process of conducting an audit of all Chartered Clubs in accordance with the requirements.


Rick Matthews
ISSCA Public Relations Officer

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Originally posted by HighwaySS:
ANNOUNCEMENT

The ISSCA Board of Directors met in a regular board meeting conducted November 13, 2004..... these minutes were approved in a special online chat meeting called for November 23, 2004.

Good move.... Congratulations!!!

During its November 13 meeting, the ISSCA Board voted on a motion to terminate the membership of Director Chuck Spera, one of 19 members of the Board on that date. The results of this vote are posted in the meeting minutes.

Action was taken as it had become evident to the majority of the ISSCA Board that the activities of Mr. Spera were not in harmony with the goals and charter of ISSCA. Unacceptable acts of Mr. Spera had been addressed previously face to face and in a letter to him with a warning regarding the consequences of continued acts that were counter to ISSCA and the ISSCA Board's intentions and direction.

Now here is something new....Face to Face and a Letter of warning.....


Therefore, under Article VI Section 2 subparagraph d. of the ISSCA bylaws (herein after referred to as “the Article”), a vote was conducted that resulted in termination of membership in this case. It is unfortunate Mr. Spera’s disregard of these warnings established a need for the Board to act. There can and will be no winners in this matter, and the Board regrets the action was necessary.

Still very subjective, just who has seen this activity?? I ask because I have never seen the man act in such a way. I also point out that it has never showed up in prior BOD minutes.

It is the position of the Board of Directors that public disclosure of unacceptable acts of Mr. Spera would cause further embarrassment to Mr. Spera, also there is no benefit from a public discussion of specific events except to further polarize the general membership which is not the goal of the ISSCA leadership.

The membership is already polarized as evident by who is posting.


One underlying concern expressed in public comment regarding this matter has been that the Board of Directors would arbitrarily act to cancel individual memberships in ISSCA. While termination is allowed under the Article as previously noted, actions that would evoke application of the Article would include acts that undermine the Executive Council’s or the Board's ability to perform the business of ISSCA, or generally disrupt the activities of ISSCA. The Article as currently written was duly approved by the Board of Directors (including Mr. Spera) and is necessary so the club, at all levels, may keep order within the organization. It is not an action used lightly nor will it be.

Rick Matthews
ISSCA Public Relations Officer

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This may be the way it has to be but I think it still wreaks!!!! I smell a skunk!

What would I like to see, have it put to a vote with all the board members.....not just those present. (Yes I know you were well within the "rules" but that act by the BOD will NEVER make this organization a better club. It stinks of selecting the "right kind of people".

2nd, a notice should have been sent out to all BOD's to advise them that this might come up and required their attention.

3rd, I think it sucks that 10 people can determine without notice that a BOD can be is not "fit" for this club.

4th, the rules need to be changed to prevent this sort of underhanded way of dealing with problematic people. This should have never happened THIS WAY. By-laws need to be re-written!

Who is kidding who.....THIS IS A POWER STRUGGLE and thats all there is to it!

BS!
 
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I appreciate the effort made for the BOD to respond to this action before the next scheduled teleconference meeting on Dec 7th.

I would agree that any further discussion would have to be initiated by Mr. Spera.

The vote was 10 affirmative and 2 against with 7 abstentions.
 
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Originally posted by Rob Hamilton:
....This may be the way it has to be but I think it still wreaks!!!! I smell a skunk!...
Rob,

I think you mean 'reeks'.

Originally posted by Rob Hamilton:
....What would I like to see, have it put to a vote with all the board members.....not just those present. (Yes I know you were well within the "rules" but that act by the BOD will NEVER make this organization a better club.......It stinks of selecting the "right kind of people'.....
I think it sucks that 10 people can determine without notice that a BOD can be is not "fit" for this club....
Rob....all the BoD does not number much more than 10 people.
Furthermore....I would refer you to Robert's Rules of Order
. This publication outlines the determination and validity of a quorum. The tenets of 'RRO' are adopted by virtually every Parlamentary....Congressional....Board of Directors....body in the modern world!

Furthermore....it seems Mr. Spera was 'informed' at various times to modify his behavior and that sanctions were forthcoming if he refused. Seems he refused and was subsequently sanctioned :( .

Originally posted by Rob Hamilton:
....the rules need to be changed to prevent this sort of underhanded way of dealing with problematic people. This should have never happened THIS WAY. By-laws need to be re-written!....
Can't see where this was 'underhanded'....I only see a need for the rule to change to allow recourse when something like this does occur.

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Rob,

If you were standing in the middle of the railroad tracks, and everyone started telling you to get out of the way because a train was coming, would you take their advice and get out of the way.....

...or would you stand there and reply 'y'all are wrong, it's my guiding light'.


Rob - you have convinced me that you will never accept what has occured no matter what. And I'm very sorry about that. Wish the ISSCA could make it right for you but it's clear that this is not going to happen. ISSCA will press on without you.
 
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Originally posted by KW Baraka:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Rob Hamilton:
....This may be the way it has to be but I think it still wreaks!!!! I smell a skunk!...
Rob,

I think you mean 'reeks'.

Actually I speak with a lisp so I thought it was right!! Just kidding, thanks.

Originally posted by Rob Hamilton:
....What would I like to see, have it put to a vote with all the board members.....not just those present. (Yes I know you were well within the "rules" but that act by the BOD will NEVER make this organization a better club.......It stinks of selecting the "right kind of people'.....
I think it sucks that 10 people can determine without notice that a BOD can be is not "fit" for this club....
Rob....all the BoD does not number much more than 10 people.
Furthermore....I would refer you to Robert's Rules of Order
. This publication outlines the determination and validity of a quorum. The tenets of 'RRO' are adopted by virtually every Parlamentary....Congressional....Board of Directors....body in the modern world!

Furthermore....it seems Mr. Spera was 'informed' at various times to modify his behavior and that sanctions were forthcoming if he refused. Seems he refused and was subsequently sanctioned :( .

Originally posted by Rob Hamilton:
....the rules need to be changed to prevent this sort of underhanded way of dealing with problematic people. This should have never happened THIS WAY. By-laws need to be re-written!....
Can't see where this was 'underhanded'....I only see a need for the rule to change to allow recourse when something like this does occur.

KW
</font>[/QUOTE]Yes I know about "Robert Rules" and usually this works, however I think it very easily could have been tabled for further discussion with all the directors as well as giving the individual an opportunity to respond. The BOD's attention or lack there of to how this action would impact this club would suggest that this was "pushed" through to prevent "anyone" suggesting an alternative.
 
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Originally posted by Doug Wood:
Rob,

If you were standing in the middle of the railroad tracks, and everyone started telling you to get out of the way because a train was coming, would you take their advice and get out of the way.....
Arguing the wrong point Doug, as usual.

[quote...or would you stand there and reply 'y'all are wrong, it's my guiding light'.
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Yeah thats it Doug, that'd be me.
Rob - you have convinced me that you will never accept what has occured no matter what. And I'm very sorry about that. Wish the ISSCA could make it right for you but it's clear that this is not going to happen. ISSCA will press on without you.
ISCCA will press on without you?? WTF is that!!

Doug, I do accept what has happened, but that does NOT mean I have to like it nor agree with it. NOR does it mean that I am not a part of this club because of my beliefs. Where the hell did that come from???? Oh wait, prolly the board, huh? Typical.
 
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Originally posted by Rob Hamilton:
....Yes I know about "Robert Rules" and usually this works, however I think it very easily could have been tabled for further discussion with all the directors as well as giving the individual an opportunity to respond. The BOD's attention or lack there of to how this action would impact this club would suggest that this was "pushed" through to prevent "anyone" suggesting an alternative.
Well...can't fault a man for his heart-felt opinion ;) !

Take care.

KW
 
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Rob, my apologies to you. May your life be good. You da man!

Can "we" leave this alone now and put it behind us? Or, as usual, am I wrong again?

Respectfully,

Doug Wood
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Word of the day: Closure


And now back to our regularly scheduled fun filled hobby of ours, the b-body. ;)

Regards,
E <----- aka: "E"

No title, just "E" - but I am an ISSCA member.
 
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OK, you all win, guilt trip accepted.

Closure.

Thanks for letting me vent.
 
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Hey folks,

Lets not lose sight of the purpose we are associated with each other. The car and more importantly the friendships we have cultivated over the years. I have met folks and made friendships I would have otherwise not had the pleasure. I always looked forward to the events so I could once again see the friends I had previously made. It always seems I was the recipient of some of the most gracious hospitality ever.

Like Dreamapalooza! We were headed back to the hotel and I was bringing up the rear. Dana backed off his supercharged ride to let me in front to catch up with the group so I didn’t get lost. Like watching Chuck run the road course in his white wagon with a permanent grin painted on his face. The pro corner workers saying he looked like Quincy (Jack Klugman), guess they thought his wagon looked like he was the coroner or something. Then there is Chris (SSONIC) trying to out do the best HP pull on the dyno in the most horrible heat ever in Tulsa by putting in larger nitrous jets. I’m like, dude you have to drive the wife home in this car.

Like the Impalafest folks that always make you feel at home and bust their buts to make sure you have a fun time. Adrian, Dan and all the other folks there always put on a great event.

Like the GRAIL folks that helped to cover for Chris (CLAWSS) and I when the law came looking for us at the last Bowling Green event when we did the early morning burnout in the parking lot.

Like the ROD folks that made me feel right at home when I went to one of their ROD-A-RAMA events. I think this event was most enjoyable because I didn’t drive and had the chance to really enjoy everything. I even got to ride with Larry Hall on the poker run.

Like the Kentucky club that always opened their homes and hearts whenever I visited there.

Like the GASSIT and SSmokinSS guys that looked after me when my alternator went south during a convoy to St. Louis.

Who could ever forget Mike Lukins hozin our cars.

You can’t buy friends like these. You can only be welcomed in.

I’ve never had a bad experience at any event I ever attended.

So … where am I going with this?

Let’s see, I was in the military for 20 years and always had leadership urges. I always felt I needed to guide and direct. Always felt I needed to have a voice or say in the meeting. Once I became a civilian, I realized it wasn’t all about me and I didn’t have all the answers. I had to adopt an attitude of cooperation, working within the team for the betterment of the organization. Just because you THINK you’re right doesn’t mean you are. On an individual basis you can always stick to your guns and hold the line, but when you are representing your constituents you have to think of their best interest first and foremost (too bad many of our politicians have lost sight of that).

In the end what I’m struggling to say is we need to pull together as the group we started out as (crazy about these cars). If you no longer wish to be a member of ISSCA, that’s your choice and decision, but you’ll never be forgotten and we hope you won’t grow weary and forget us.

For anyone/club I forgot to mention, my apologies, lots of thoughts running through my mind right now.
 
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Basically all "dissent" was stifled as a matter of policy, the real issue wasn't why we were questioning the ISSCA leadership, but why were they doing questionable things... when the BLANK hit the fan, I chose to be outside the tent pissing in rather than be inside the tent holding my water, muzzled by the rules... FWIW

It (trying to do things in a different and perhaps better way) was a noble experiment that went terribly wrong in many subtle ways. To dwell on the imperfect past is undignified. We should endeavor to look forward with a renewed detrermination and vigor, etc... and I do not write this to somehow rehabilitate myself, folks seem to project a lot of their own personal feelings/beliefs and wonder why others don't "get it".

Peace, Love, Unity & Respect!
"Transparency creates Trust"

Cypher in Boston
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...former ISSCA Historian, former Director for Region 10...
Notorious scoffing naysayer when it comes to "shenannigans" - real or imaginary...

PS: I read what former Boston Celtic Bill Russell wrote about "egoless teams"... in this case the followers of the contrasting and conflicting ideologies/philosophies ("Clarkism" and "Speraism") should both learn a lesson from all of this, that its not WHO did what, but how they chose to do it, we can't go back and put Humpty Dumpty back together again, but we can affirm not to watch him being pushed off the wall while we sit on our hands or look the other way, THEN cry foul.
Next time it might be you, so as a warning to those who may not be able to resist the urge to join the fray, DO NOT ROCK THE BOAT OR DARE TO SPEAK YOUR MIND...!
History will not absolve us...
 
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