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Does anyone know where inside the car the outside air temp sender wires end up? Under the dash someplace, but where? All the Impala's have the sensor wire under the hood latch, where is the other end of that wire?? I want to put a rearview mirror in the car, and I'd like to use the existing wire to runthe temp sender...
 

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If I remember right it ends up at the connector right above and attached to the gas pedal. I will have to look in my fsm to find the pinout though. But again I am going completely off memory so I maybe wrong. I will try to find it tonight for you.
 

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If I remember right it ends up at the connector right above and attached to the gas pedal. I will have to look in my fsm to find the pinout though. But again I am going completely off memory so I maybe wrong. I will try to find it tonight for you.
Thank you, this will make my job a lot easier!
 

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I still want to do this on my 93 Caprice. Ive got all the parts from a 93 Roadmaster (except wiring). It looks like more than I can tackle unless someone were to make up a harness and sell one. Will keep my eyes open. If anyone is local in ATL, get with me.
 

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look around you local area for a mechanic, that's what I did and he installed my the same a.c. unit along with my 12 ways bonnies for me and I luv it man, it took me a while but it was worth it
 

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back seat floor heater ducts from Fleetwood

Hey there all

I have had a couple of gentleman on here curious about the installation of this into our Caprices and Impalas, since the crash this info was lost and I am pretty sure that I made a post regarding this about a year ago. I will try to remember all that I can to help out anyone.

As far as what you need,

1.94-96 control head, mine is a 96 as there are some internal differences, at least this is what I was told, and it works better.
2. Mixing valve, electric unit that goes in place of the manual unit on the duct housing
3. electric vacuum solenoid, in place of the manual tubes from the control switch.
4. interior temp sensor and tube that is run behind the glove box, tube attachs to the upper portion of the blower housing to cause a vacuum affect to pull in cabin air so the system can read interior temp for auto control
5. Sun load sensor, goes in where the twilight sensor is under the dash vent, you will need a dash vent also from a 95 or 96 roady and modify it to fit in our dashes, or cut a hole for the sensor and put it in place
6. Exterior temp sensor, mounted in front of radiator.
7. blower control module, goes in place of the original blower resistor module mounted next to the blower in the duct.

Now as far as installation goes, it is easier to accomplish if you have the whole harness out of a Roady and just take out the wires that you need, but you can do the installation with just the connector ends and a bunch of splicing.
You will have to have a fair bit of electrical knowledge and ability to trace out information on the wiring diagrams

Take the dash apart to ease the installation, including both the upper and lower portions of it.

you will be cutting a square hole for the interior temp sensor tube in this plenum here on the right side and route the tube towards the glove box.


remove the original clitmate control assembly and the manual mixing valve that is shown here


Here is where this is mounted to it is about in the middle of the picture, has a post and a u shaped post coming out of the plenum

These are the posts that I added to mount the electric unit



This is the vacuum control module, you take out the original distribution block install this one in it's place, I would suggest that you take the vacuum hoses of one by one and replace them with the new ones, they are all the same color coding.


Here is the shot of the harness that I made to go into the dash, I just measure everything where it needed to go and went from there. It will take a little looking at the schematics and figuring out what you can reuse. The defroster relay on the original panel is mounted to the back of the original panel, so I just used the relay for the hi blower setting down by the blower assembly.



There are probably a hundred different ways to make the harness, so if you can get the harness out of a Roady I would do this as it would be 100 times easier than tracing out all the wires like I had to do.
Here is a shot of the climate control harness, I left in all the original wiring just incase I wanted to take it back to original


As far as the mounting in the original location, you are going to have to be creative cause the mounts on the new control don't work with our old ones and you will have to cut them off, I just cut apart the original control and used it's out portion and slide it on mine and mounted it to the dash


This pic shows how I routed the interior temp sensor tube


Also if you mount the vaccum module to the original location you will have to take a piece out of you glove box so that it will shut, or you can tie it up out of the way so that it doesn't hit it, if you don't want to mess with cutting the glove box. I cut mine, I will have to find a pic of that though.
This is how my mounted in the original location

Since then I made a sheetmetal bracket for my double din install and it came out like this.


I think that is it, if you have any questions please feel free to ask.


Mike
Have you seen the 2 air ducts that run from under the center dash heater output ? The follow the curve of the transmission hump and blow warm air out from under the front seats to the rear passengers. Only Fleetwood had them.
 

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look around you local area for a mechanic, that's what I did and he installed my the same a.c. unit along with my 12 ways bonnies for me and I luv it man, it took me a while but it was worth it
Who did your HVAC panel install?
 

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I got this installed and working for the most part. I swapped out the whole air box out with a Roadmaster one as mine was melted from a fire in it (that's another story). So far all the actuators and solenoids are working as well as the blower. The problem I am running into is the temp display. For whatever reason this thing only displays in Celsius! Thinking it was something to do with not communicating with the PCM I went and hooked that up but get the same thing. The tach in the diagnostics does work, so it is communicating. All these parts came out of a 96 Roadmaster that I had driven for a while and parted, so I know it did display in Fahrenheit. My caprice is a 96 setup as well. Anyone run into this?

EDIT: Grounded the solid black wire which toggles the C/F setting. Cut wire and all is good.
 

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