[4501 Safari]

There was some discussion a good while ago about the steering dampner for the Fleetwood. Roadmasters had them as well. Goes without saying it requires the dedicated centerlink for the steering dampner. I have that information as well but anyone can look it up, as would seem could be done for sourcing steering dampners. I figure if I can do it how hard can it be?

Was surprised to bring up all available at one site.The info pasted over below and here is the link as well: http://frugalmechanic.com/auto-part...ring-damper?bq=MOOG+SSD77+steering+stabilizer

There are four listed . Click into the individual descriptions for all the years they fit. Price range is within reason as well.

Richard Snipes
4501 Safari in Jax, FL

Moog SSD77 Steering Damper
Moog - SSD77, MOSSD77

Moog SSD77 Steering Damper Features: Use on Cadillac 1977 - 1995 cars Designed as stock replacement Improves chassis performance and durability Easy to install
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No Image ACDelco 509-608 Strut Assembly
AC Delco - 509608, 509-608, AC509608

ACDelco 509-608 STRUT ASSEMBLY
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KYB SS10200 Shock Accessories - SHOCK COMPONENT-CADILLAC
KYB - SS10200, KYSS10200

KYB Steering Stabilizer is designed to restore steering control. It is made from sturdy material and minimizes steering vibration as well as wheel shimmy for reduced tire wear. This steering stabilizer is highly durable and ensures easy installation. Features: Designed...
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Auto Saver/Monroe SC2922 Stabilizer Cylinder
Monroe - SC2922, TSSC2922

Monro-Magnum Steering Stabilizer is ideally suited for trucks, vans, and four wheel drive vehicles. This cylinder stops the vibration before it gets to the driver. It increases control under all driving conditions by reducing steering shimmy and driver fatigue. This stabi...
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[96 Black]

... Roadmasters had them as well....

For whatever reason I believe the centerlink is different and the strut mounts from the opposite framerail than a Cady. I thought one of the wagon models may have had this option too.

 

[4501 Safari]

Will check it out...

I have the IPB (Illustrated Parts Breakdown) fische sets for the Roadmasters and the Fleetwoods so when I have a bit of time will sleuth out the part numbers. Since I have both cars, I will also get some photos of the stabilizers, center links and attaching points on both sides. If I can remember how to post a picture on the forum, I'll include that as well. Having replaced idler arms, center links, steering stabilizers and just about every front suspension component on the wagon and the Fleetwood, I believe the parts are identical but would have to go back in my records to validate.

Stay tuned...

Richard Snipes,
4501 Safari in Jax, FL

 

[Navy Lifer]

Illustrations comparing FW & RM steering damper configuration

93 FW cooling system - water pump components - I don't understand the "how or why" that necessitated the need for the FW to have a different water pump setup in 1993, but I believe that the extra components (item 18, basically) shown in this illustration are what caused the FW to have the steering damper mounted to the LEFT frame rail instead of being just like the Buick.

93 FW steering linkage (shows steering damper - connected to left frame rail)

94-96 FW steering linkage (shows steering damper - connected to left frame rail)


94-96 RM steering linkage (shows steering damper - connected to left frame rail even though we KNOW it connects to right frame rail)

91-93 RM steering linkage (does not show steering damper)

92-93 RM steering column, showing NV7 sensor (item 90)

GM bulletin (TSB) was issued to cover the 92-93 RM with NV7 on a case-by-case basis to add the steering damper - was not production configuration.

 

[MEMPH1Z aka 93 CAPRICIOUS]

This is one mod I cant wait to do on the 93 caprice this fall sometimes, great stuff harper!

 

[ayilar]

@4501 Safari created a great thread. Despite its dating back to 2010, it helped me find the right damper to install on my new-to-me 1996 FWB (the damper still works pretty well, but it's one of the few "consumable" components on my car that has not been replaced for years and so I will change it as a precaution).

The current offerings, AFAICT, seem to be down to just two. I could not find the KYB and Monroe anywhere. Still available:

1. the AC Delco 509-608, which is available from GM Parts and from Rock Auto, among others;
2. the Moog SSD77, which is out of stock at most of the reliable online retailers (Summit, O'Reilly, etc.), with stock refills anticipated to happen in 2-8 weeks. Luckily, I found one left today at Rock Auto for $53.25 and bought it.

The listing on the RA website has (temporarily) been removed from the site. Here is the link as it was this afternoon. It will be interesting to see whether/when stocks will be replenished. If not, then it's down to the AC Delco--which is unfortunate for Roadmaster owners, as the Moog part is said to fit better on the RMS/RMW than on the Fleetwood.

 

[Caddylack]

@4501 Safari created a great thread. Despite its dating back to 2010, it helped me find the right damper to install on my new-to-me 1996 FWB (the damper still works pretty well, but it's one of the few "consumable" components on my car that has not been replaced for years and so I will change it as a precaution).

The current offerings, AFAICT, seem to be down to just two--the KYB and Monroe appear to be gone:

1. the AC Delco 509-608, which is available from GM Parts and from Rock Auto, among others;
2. the Moog SSD77, which is out of stock at most of the reliable online retailers (Summit, O'Reilly, etc.), with stock refills anticipated to happen in 2-8 weeks. Luckily, I found one left today at Rock Auto this afternoon for $53.25 and bought it.

The listing on the RA website has (temporarily) been removed from the site. Here is the link as it was this afternoon. It will be interesting to see whether/when stocks will be replenished. If not, then it's down to the AC Delco--which is unfortunate for Roadmaster owners, as the Moog part is said to work better on the RMS/RMW than on the Fleetwood.

This might be the highest-quality necropost that I've ever seen.

You will be spared.

 

[96 Black]

This is one mod I cant wait to do on the 93 caprice this fall sometimes, great stuff harper!

My recollection is the Chevys have no provision (hole) in the centerlink to affix a steering stabilizer. Unaware whether there's provision on the frame horn to mount it. Measurements would show whether a Cady/Buick centerlink is the same dimensions. But if so, it'll be important to check which, if either, side a frame mount is waiting unused in order to match the mount with the correct centerlink. And yes, I made that sound more complicated than it might be.

 

[Caddylack]

My recollection is the Chevys have no provision (hole) in the centerlink to affix a steering stabilizer. Unaware whether there's provision on the frame horn to mount it. Measurements would show whether a Cady/Buick centerlink is the same dimensions. But if so, it'll be important to check which, if either, side a frame mount is waiting unused in order to match the mount with the correct centerlink. And yes, I made that sound more complicated than it might be.

The center link dimensions are identical, and thus they are interchangeable.

BUT... From memory I don't think the Caprice or Impala has the mount on the frame.

Also, this thing is not a real upgrade. It's something they sold to old people in response to a psychiatric problem.

 

[96 Black]

"Also, this thing is not a real upgrade. It's something they sold to old people in response to a psychiatric problem."

As close as I can come to the situation, as well. Most probable motivation had to be to answer the then demographic owner's insistence that their driving experience be forbidden from any feeling they were on the ground. It was likely nothing more than a $7 production line checkmark to validate the several $thousands upcharge over a Buick. And obviously the Buick's wasn't as good since it was mounted on the wrong side.

Sure, when replacing mine as part of a complete front-end redo, I did feel a little firmer feel when cycling the new cylinder v. the old one. But that was only by hand and off the car. By the little effort to move even the new one there would be no means possible to turn the steering wheel quickly enough to energize the hydraulics to any noticeable degree of dampening. Maybe repeatedly hitting BIG potholes, which I guess is any blind blu-hair's prerogative.

But in all honesty it struck me it would take 50k miles neglecting ALL maintenance on the front of the car for that shock to feel of any benefit. But then it would be sacked out and shot just the same as everything else.