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I want your honest opinion of how it actually turned out. thank you!
 
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Well honestly I have never liked participant judging, b/c i never win at those kind of shows, but I liked it at the Impalafest b/c I got a trophie this time :) But this is my first time at impalafest so i don't know how the others where done in the past.
 
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Hmmmm..... That's kind of a loaded question because if someone were to say "I didn't like it" and that same someone just happened to not get a trophy, it will sound like sour grapes.

On that note I'll say "No comment". ;) ;) ;)

I will say, however, that the weekend overall was a blast. There isn't anywhere I'd rather have been! :D
 
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I mean, would you rather have to worry about cleaning the wax off your car whenever a gust of wind brought a few specs of sand nearby and waiting for the judge to get to your car?

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Walking around looking at cars, talking with others about cars, and knowing that your opinion counted toward who wins and who looses?

many have said that this year was more relaxed than previous years. I'm thinking that the participant judging helped that. But I could be wrong.
 
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Cheston,

My opinion on the judging...

First off, I don't know or doubt that anyone else could know what if any effect the participant judging had on the results. I witnessed the normal stuff that you see at most shows... "how can they be in THAT class?" "how did THEY win?", etc. I have to go on record saying that EVERY car that I saw was exceptional in some way. Remember that all of these cars were identical when they left Arlington the first time and now they are each VERY unique.

The only problem that I had with the judging was that there were a LOT of cars there and a LOT of classes. I think that in the case where participants are judging without the aid of scoresheets, that the cars should be parked by class. This way you can see the competitors side by side.

I lost track of how many times I walked from one end of the show to the other to compare my "final" choices on the ballot sheet... It was real work and I think that all that were involved gained a new perspective on what a judge has to endure in a show of this size.

I did not find any case myself where a certain car went away with an unearned award.

RegardSS,

Bill Sadler
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that's a good idea


That is one thing about ImpalaFest that has always confused me. The parking at the show. Everybody just parks whereever they want. Usually you see clubs parking together but that often gets spread out. That could be something we could work on for next year.
 
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Parking at a show. Hehehe... You don't EVEN want to get involved in that.

I've worked on every ImpalaFest from '97 to 2001 and offer this observation. We have tried parking cars by class, or by some compenent of class (that is, year, color, mod level, mileage). Half the participants park correctly but bitch about having to do so; half the participants park somewhere other than the section "assigned", then then bitch because we can't find them to judge their cars; half the participants (three halves? yeah, it's a big show...) try to park where we want them, but can't figure it out so they are upset; we won't even talk about what the fourth half does... :D

We had one guy suggest that we should assign individual, numbered parking spots. If you didn't park where you were supposed to, you simply wouldn't get judged. Yeah, that would go over good. <laugh>

We have some very vocal individuals who insist the only reason they go to an event like this is to park with other members of their local club. You will go absolutely nuts trying to please everyone, so you've gotta do what seems to work.

For a "judged show", like we normally run, we settled on a scheme where you park any place you want, then check in with one of our members who is responsible for your section. He turns your entry over to the judges, with notation of where you've parked, so they can come and find you without too much hassle. But that gets complicated by people who move during the show. You can't win. :D

Check out the drive through judging that our friends do at ImpalapaLouis. It eliminates some of the parking hassle, but it puts more pressure on the participant to line up to be judged at the appointed time, and it completely eliminates the "display" from the competition. See, you can't win! :D

Although pre-assigned parking sections makes it easier to find a class of cars, it doesn't seem likely that we'll go back to assigned parking sections; not for a while, at least.

Dan
 
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Dan,

I hear you man... I have to admire any club willing to put forth the effort to organize a show of this size anyway... and you are right.. you can't win, no matter what you do.

The only answer I have is to charge a little more for the entry fee and award 1st place trophies to everyone :rolleyes:
 
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My wife and I both enjoyed the participant judging as we got to view every car at the show for the 1st time in the 3 years we have attended. We met and talked to others about their cars which was enjoyable. It seemed to be more layed back than usual. Yes we had to walk back and forth a few times to compare cars in the same class, but parked on opposite ends, to make a final choice on who was getting our vote. It would of made it a lot easier to group the cars by class but I can also see where people would complain about not parking and hanging out with their respective club.
 
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We had a great time, participant judging and all. I, for one, prepare each year for a strict judging inspection. All that work kinda goes to waste on a PJ show. That being said, the show was a blast. Hats off to HOSS for another great show. ;)
 
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