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I figure that'll get people wound up. ;)

The Fleet is retired for now. Alternates between the driveway and the field while I try and get the new shop put together and do 500 other projects. Perfect opportunity to keep collecting parts, at least. So, OK, I don't want some massive, absurd looking thing on it. But I do want to add some life to that big, flat piece of steel, too. Considering there is putty near the middle of the hood from whatever happened while the original owners had the car it's a perfect specimen to cut up.

Right now the lead contender is a '68 Yenko Camaro type(if only I could find one in metal).



Aggressive but not over-the-top...maybe. It may be too small, though. I need to get the measurements from an early Camaro just to see how much bigger the Fleet's hood is. Anyone have any other suggestions? Subtle is the key here(yeah, get the 2ft tall box scoops posted early and get it out of your systems).
 

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I'll vote "barf" in advance. They're too classy a car for a hood scoop.
 

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So Scott-,
Your idea is not seeing the love here eh. cwm2

The more current -V models seem to be able to get away with a well contained supercharger tumor. But, some rigs just ain't no scoop never gonna work on. Think an 80's Eldo or Riv as one of the few possibly even more disturbing examples.


Now if you were to tell us you're putting together a salt flats car, - why then that's a whole 'nother story!
 

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Nah, I figured it wouldn't get a lot of love so it's ok. :)

But to me, honestly, these things are just a Caprice with the interior they all should have had. A Chevy engine under the hood means it's just a Chevy with Caddy badges on it (that includes the new ones). So it's a perfectly legit candidate for any mod any other B body is up for. It's just that question of "looks good vs clown car".

Seriously, a half-acre of flat steel isn't the definition of "classy", either, but in this case it's a moot point. This particular hood either gets something on it or it winds up as scrap and I get another. Once I dig out whatever that lump of crap in the center is I'm pretty sure I'm not going to want to fix what's under it.
 

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A "one inch" L88 scoop.



Just enough to give some contour but hardly enough to become a focus point. Negatives: It's some mighty generic "contour"...and I can't find anything metal shorter than two inches...
 

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No No This Thread Ain't Dead Yet

Only works though with the whole paint scheme:

 

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What a waste of a nice Poncho... Honestly, that type of thing should be illegal.
 

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Only works though with the whole paint scheme:

That actually hurts me to look at it. That is a shaker hood...I shake my head just looking at it. I think that must be one of the worst looking cars I have ever seen.
 

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Yah it's a nightmaremaker alright. I stole it from the WTF Thread. Fortunately most everything outside can be salvaged with some paint. There are however baby angels crying every night about those abused vette sidepipes and old Mercury visor.

The OP sure has come up with a stumper. I haven't thought of a single scoop on a D-body that wouldn't look like just a hokey applique. Better just settle for a spoiler on the trunk.
 

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I figure that'll get people wound up. ;)
haha, my first thought was "ooh, that could be interesting...." Definitely piqued my curiosity.

I like the heat extractor idea better than a scoop, at first thought. The Z34 hood vents could be cool, especially if permanently bodyworked into the hood so you can only see the louvers and not the outline of the piece.

That's all I have for now but I'm subscribed to see how this turns out. :)
 

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That poor Pontiac. You gotta wonder, did someone start that project with the goal of building the ugliest ****er ever to roll out? Or does he really think it's cool? If the former, he succeeded, big time. If the latter, I weep for our species.

I don't dislike the heat exchanger idea. And someone mentioned the idea of putting in a couple short rows of small louvers on each side, too. Same effect. A friend of mine had the wretched remains of an L88 from a wrecked Camaro which he brought over the other day, too. Laid that on top of the hood and...*shrug* It's not horrible.

Since I'll have to buy a hood if I want to keep it stock, anyway, the one I have may wind up with several things tried on it. No loss regardless.

Interesting thing about a spoiler; I saw a photo of a Fleet with a "lip* on it like the Lesabre T-types...



Tucked in between the tail light extensions it looked pretty good. I haven't been able to find the pic again anywhere though. I thought someone posted it here but if so...maybe it was before the crash.
 

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OK - Here's The Deal

Factoring in its long length, already-protruding nose and grille, and otherwise clean lines, the only plausible alteration to the hood is along the lines of an Exelero.

Raise the entire hood. But only a teeny bit. And really only a moderately tapering band of the center 40%. The same concept as a current CTS-V, except you have to extend the raised portion all the way to the front and incorporate the grille and not have it die before reaching the front.

But special care not too high or too narrow and have it turn out like an Edsel, LaSalle or coffin-nose Cord.

Now that that's solved, show me how to mod those headlights to something in the current century.
 

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I saw a Plymouth or Dodge with twin scoops, one on each side toward the middle front to back. The early 70s Plymouths had huge expanses of hood like the FW, and the scoops looked good on them. Another option is a pair of NACA scoops, one on each side near the front, or maybe even four evenly spaced, about a foot back from the front edge.
 

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Well, something happened the past week or so. A couple things, actually. Some good, some bad. The "good" was a guy made me an offer on some of the parts I had collected for the Fleet. A ridiculously good offer. SO I am now minus my Yank and all the rear brake parts I had collected and the Yukon...

In light of the other events, I am about 1 shake away from listing the car and all the remaining parts on here for sale and consolidating down to 2 or 3 projects. I really need to get off the pot and make a decision...
 
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