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I swapped my SS rims with 275/40s onto my Caprice. I've been told that they'd fit just fine. Well, they don't. I had to do quite a bit of work and they still rub on occasion. I pulled the chrome trim from the rear wheelwell. That looks much better
But they still won't fit. I rolled the lip in as much as I could. Now they fit (within a half inch or less, and they rub. I've still got the stock suspension. I did have to replace the axle a few years ago and I don't know what this axle came out of. It did have the same small drum brakes on it though. I'm sure the 100k+ miles has worn down the FE1 "soft ride" suspension even more. It only rubs occasionally. But the ride difference is HUGE! These tires follow the road MUCH more than my 215/75 R15s. And the short sidewall and heavy rims feel like steamrollers. I was NOT expecting this! I have GOT to get some better control arms on it and it definitely needs new shocks. I put some others on a few years ago, but sheesh!

I've also noticed that it seems to rub more toward the rear of the fenderwell. So I STRONGLY urge others with the skirted fenders to NOT put the extended control arms on. It would only make things worse. In fact, I'm considering shortening mine. I can imagine a few benefits to this. Slightly better weight distribution (more weight on rear wheels), less arm to flex, more clearance around the rear fender, etc... Might even have to relocated some of the mounting points. hmmmm.....
time to research!


Well, I just wanted other civi skirted-Caprice owners to hear this. If you're got the same or a similar combination as I do, then be careful!
 
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But I forgot to mention! The SS rims look SWEET on the Caprice! I've gotten SEVERAL compliments in just 1 night
I definitely needs to be lowered in the front and I gotta fix that damn rubbing!
 
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Cheston, I don't know if you have the FSM but there's a table in there where you can check your ride height, maybe your springs are sagging? Mine have always felt like they are, and I've got the FE1 suspension as well.
I'm thinking that these soft springs might sag after a while (esp. 10 year old cars like ours)

I am sure the rims look great on your car!
Do they cover the brake drums though?
 
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I still need to get FSMs for both my cars :(

I put the 15" black steel rims from my Caprice on the SS. It looks mean that way


I really did this for a trial run while the SS is still down with a bad tranny. I now know what the maximum Front Spacing I would consider going with on the Caprice. The SS rims are 3 1/16" FS so I would think that 3" even would work with properly sized tires. I'd probably go a little less though.

And yes, the SS rims do look good on the Caprice. I haven't even noticed the rear drums. I'll probably strip the rust off them and paint them black or light gray anyway. Same with the front calipers, and I'll do a little something on the next set of rotors I get.
 
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I also had a 91' caprice with the skirts...It had eibach springs and 16x8 budniks....fit fine ..later, we put 20x8... First thing that you need to do is take a dremel or any kind of grinder and cut the inside lip off the skirts... once you have that off, take a pipe, maybe like inch or two wide and place it in back of the tire jammed in the wheel well...drive forward really slow jamming the pipe betwwen the tire and skirt...continue until you roll it out as much as you need...when your finished, it will look as though the car came that way!!! now slamm the hell out of it, and watch how many comments you get....It is reaaly easy...just force the pipe in and around...careful with your fingers!!!! good luck.... ;)
 
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finally got a picture of the Caprice with the SS rims on. Didn't get a close up or any shots from the rear. It was just too dirty back there and needs lots more work.

What do ya think?
 
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Looks very nice! Needs to be lowered a bit though, like you said ;). I went with H&Rs to lower my Roadmaster, and I'm really happy with them. Lately I've been contemplating chopping off the skirts
... I'd like to put some big meats on the rear someday, and I know that those skirts are going to get in the way. The tough part in doing this lies in the fact that the rear doors are part of the skirt. I think the Roadmaster sedan and Fleetwood are the only two B-Bodies with this trait.
Where in TX are you, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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Looks great Cheston!

Here's the trim height chart:

When I checked the rear end of my car it was right on the mark on one side and almost a full inch lower on the other side :eek:, so I think I've discovered why I can't ever get my car to align. So either it's sagging or it's General "They all do that" Motors build quality again :rolleyes:

Anyway good luck with the chart! Hope it helps.

 
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Sorry to hear you had trouble fitting the wheels to your car, though I am sure it was worth it in the end. I am probably one who made you believe they would fit without modification.

For me, they were simply bolted on. No banging or bending involved, I simply removed the old and added the new.

As for lowering or sag, here are some pics of my '91. People often ask what type of springs/what I did to lower it. This is simply the stance of a worn out city cop suspension. Again NO modification done.



 
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Erik, I'm a HOSS'er near Tyler and Longview in East Texas. Good luck with your RoadMonster!

Carlton, THANKSS for that picture! I've been trying to find a GOOD side view of the 91-92 Caprice. Now I've got a great one to mess with
Does the FSM have any more good pictures like that of the outside of our cars?
And I'll go check those measurements later.

Dean, I had tried to put SS rims on this car before. A friend of mine had a pristine 95 DCM and I had to test fit his rims on my Caprice. Didn't work then. I knew I was gonna have some work to do. But the pictures of your car helped me decide to do it.
You're lucky. Your 9C1 had the white rubber strips. Mine were black. I kinda regret taking them off now :(
 
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LIKE EVERYONE ELSE......I THINK YOU CAR LOPOKS GREAT, BUT WHEN ARE YOU GONNALET ME SEE IT 1st HAND. I NEED SOME IDEAS FOR MY '95 9C1
 
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Vonerik, you've got mail.

EVERYBODY with fender skirts! Would somebody take a picture of their car for me? Lighter colored cars would be better. I want a low angled side view that shows the entire length of the car.

thankSS!
 
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Clean looking car Dean! Mine's doing the self-lowering at the rear. I use airshocks to pump it up a bit.

Cheston, there's a whole lot of drawings in the FSM, but most of them only show components. I think that's the only one that shows the entire side of the car.

Here's a low sideview of my car as you asked:

 
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ThankSS Carlton! Check this out:


Almost a perfect match!
 
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It looks like I might be able to buy some Impala wheels later this month, from one of the local owners who's putting 20s on his Impala. If anyone else has pictures of skirted cars with Impala wheels I'd love to see them.
 
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Be careful if you cut your inside lip.Like heavychevy said.I did that to mine.This is where they weld it shut to keep water out!!!!Because,I cut mine to fit 15X8 Torq thrust 2 on mine.Because of backspacing 3 7/8. But back to cutting you can get water into the car. It will fill the back floor up with water.I check all other places people wrote about in this forum.Because,I just brought the car and installed the rims.I felt dumb because,I should have known.You can fill it with foam or any material that you wish from inside the trunk.
 
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thanks for the tip. It's been raining here a LOT over the past week, but I haven't noticed any watter in the trunk.
 
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