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Junkyard wheel scores: Durango, Grand Cherokee, etc.

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As new cars continue to get older and old cars continue to get newer, it's about time we have a fresh discussion on wheels.

We should establish fitment and some general specs for wheels that can be easily acquired for cheap.

Many here on the forum are aware that the 3rd gen Grand Cherokee uses the 5x5 or 5 x 127 pattern. What do we know about offset, backspacing, etc.?

The 3rd gen Durango (2011+) also uses a 5x5 pattern, with several wheel options in the 18-20 inch range.

Some of the Chrysler Pacificas also used 5x5 and had 19" wheels.

Late model Mopar mini-vans used 5x5, but those wheels are very narrow and only built for soccer-momming.

To get us started, here are a couple of Durango wheels that are cheap on Rock Auto:

18" x 8": More Information for VARIOUS MFR 136570001

20" x 8": More Information for VARIOUS MFR 188320001
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You are suggesting FWD rims that require spacers up to 2 inch in width.

How does this make them cheap?

In many places it is not legal to use spacers for on road use.
I didn't suggest anything. The point of the thread is to figure this stuff out.

The Caravan rims are too small. I haven't checked specs on the Pacifica besides the bolt pattern.

The Durango and Grand Cherokee are my main targets, hence the thread title.
I'm sure a few states have made laws against spacers due to local issues. It seems like a pretty difficult thing to get busted for, unless your wheels were sticking out excessively.

With that said, we are car guys. Breaking car laws is what we do.

My car should have emissions equipment and ABS, but they went missing.
Back to the original post. One would have to really like the durango wheels to want to pay for a quality solution to their 56mm offset.

Most rims went "deep dish" a long time ago.
Fair point.

I wouldn't put these wheels on an Impala, but I know there are folks out there looking for a more modern wheel to replace their 15 inchers.

I know there are guys like @Chicagoareabmx who are interested in cheap aluminum wheels for the track.

Another counterpoint: A handful of brake upgrades, etc. have been passed up due to increased track width. A wheel like this would be a solution.

Remember @GoremanX that the AWD Astro has a completely removable front subframe. The track width is a few inches wider than the B-body, so I never looked into it past that.
Can the track width be addressed by using different control arms, or knuckles, or anything like that?
Yes but that is another big fab project. It would be with the control arms but then you are modifying a whole lot of **** probably.
Yeah, at that point it stops being practical compared to other options.
State or provincial inspections.
Insurance inspections.
Insurance contracts.

Where I am both the insurance inspection form and the insurance contract ask: Has the vehicle been modified for speed or performance. Everyone should check their policies for this as lawyers may define your modifications differently than you do.

The other investigative route is after a accident. A bicyclist went through a red light and hit a friends stock truck. They impounded the truck to check it for "deficiencies". (none found and totally irrelevant)

A insurance lawyer may go after modifications to shift blame or draw out or deny claims.
None of these are frequent occurrences.

Possible, yes. But show me an actual case of somebody getting busted for spacers, and then we can talk.
What? State inspections happen once a year every year. Same with insurance contracts, albeit everyone lies let's be real here. Even Karen with a 50% window tint she got on her front side windows lies about her car being unmodified.

Now insurance inspections those are pretty rare.
What I meant was it's not frequent for wheel spacers to be inspected in any of those instances. It would have to be physically obvious.

Illinois has no inspections.
Wonder what California has to say about spacers, since they are so anal about modifications on vehicles.
They probably just want to know what the spacers are made out of... :rolleyes:
The eastern states beg to differ on that inspection thing. I know people that have not passed inspections because of rust. They do not jack around when it comes to inspection time.

Illinois and their lack of inspections. Boy am I jealous!
Oh, it's one of the only good things about living in Illinois. No inspections or emissions, even on new cars.
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There aren't likely to be an wheels better suited to these cars than the factory Impala rims.
Finding SS rims at the junkyard in 2023 is about as likely as spotting Elvis or 2pac.

The point of the thread is cheap junkyard wheels. What are the best options? How do they fit in the front and rear?

Fleetwood guys... @96 Black

We all know about how our rear tires are limited in width by the factory skirts (the handles for the skirts, more specifically). What about clearance on the inside of the wheel well?

Would a wheel with a more modern offset be a good thing for trying to cram wider tires in the back?
What "cheap junkyard wheels" even fit our cars? Mostly late model 2WD GM trucks ,and other B-bodies. Most are going to only be 7" widths. Kinda hard to get exited about ,huh....

Summit/Jeg's sell new steel wheels quite reasonably in 8-10 inch width ,and 15-17" diameters.
Are you even reading the posts that you're replying to?

The title of the thread references Grand Cherokee and Durango. Those wheels are commonly between 18 and 20 inches in diameter.

Identifying other potential targets is the entire point of the thread.
Most rims went "deep dish" a long time ago.
"Deep dish" refers to rims with a negative offset that have a big lip on the face side of the wheel.
Once spacers around an inch are called for. Then adapters become practical ,and one is no longer limited to 5x5 bolt circle(s). Durango/Cherokee rims are not that impressive in my opinion. Especially comparing to late model Camaro/Corvette rims which aren't likely to end up in salvage yards. Rims over eight inches wide are going to be slim pickings also. Not to mention ten inch widths that most of these wider tires should be mounted on at minimum.
Well, the SRT Cherokee rims are listed as 33-37mm offset.
Im a fan of the steele rim and really liked Livin1’s setup using the dodge ram Steele spare rim, but of course as noted in his thread he used adapters.
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Haha, that's funny you bring this up... I have been pondering putting some oversized police wheels on my Tahoe PPV.

The Nissan Armada and Titan have 20" steel spares in the same pattern as the GM trucks. Then you have the 22" transport wheels that the trucks are shipped on:
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My plan right now is to do a staggered setup with Nissan spares in the front and transport wheels in the back, with Chevy police hub caps transplanted onto them so they kinda match.

There are definitely similar setups out there in 5x5.
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