[Mendonmafia]

Just ordered a 95 FW sight unseen with 68k miles for 6k delivered including tag transfer, taxes, and fees. Seemed like a good deal for an lt1 car with that low miles. Car looks super clean. Only issues are the rear and driver windows supposedly don't work. Hoping it's just the sliders.

RPO codes

 

[Mendonmafia]

2.93, yet not a Brougham, & no yarmulke. I'm jealous, so, you likely did ok.
Seriously, congratulations.

Check for the rear floor vents.
We gotta figure out how to reproduce those things, if not improve on them.

Thanks! Glad to hear I may have got a decent deal!

I thought the broughams had 3.something rear ends. And yea when I saw no vinyl top, the miles, the condition, and the price I jumped on it. There's always the whole I've never driven it part so it might be jacked up, but I'm hoping for the best. My 94 9c1 with the same engine and trans is still going strong over 201k miles. Trans was rebuilt at 140k though by previous owner. I am actually still finalizing the deal on this FW but my down payment is in so I could back out but I'd lose $500.

Once I get the car I'll be sure to look for the rear vents. I have a 3d printer so I might be able to replicate a set if my car has them. The listing has been taken down so I can't even see the pics myself anymore. But I didn't see any pictures showing rear floor vents and tbh wasn't aware that was a feature on these. I have a 9c1 with DeVille seats but the rear vents aren't functional (yet) and they come out up high behind the front armrest/center console/middle seat back. Since you say floor vents I assume they would be under the seats and possibly not very visible for general photos?

 

[Mendonmafia]

I agree 3.42 would be nice. My 9c1 has 3.08 and even that is a pretty tall gear but it's not a bad compromise for a daily driver. I plan to do 3.73 with posi at some point. Hard to believe a 9c1 wasn't factory with posi but mine doesn't have the g80 gode and it's for sure open. Interestingly it also has power mirrors but they are not heated, which from my research seems to be unusual.

When your Fleetwood arrives, try 9C1 Main line pressure tables on for size.

I'm not sure what the main line pressure tables are or how to change them.

I'll be sure to look for the vents though when it arrives.

Should also mention the dash is pretty cracked but I'll just cover it with a pad and probably eventually get it wrapped in suede

 

[Mendonmafia]

Your Fleetwood will almost certainly need a driveshaft upgrade with 3.73.
Maybe give the Fleetwood the 3.08?
As for the dash, it's a pity the aftermarket hasn't yet stepped up with decent replacements.

I'd love the 3.08 in the FW but it's got over 200k miles on it so I'll probably just keep the rear ended stock in the FW.
I actually just saw a 96 caprice with 180k miles and the dash isn't cracked! I didn't think this was possible lol. Tbh my 9c1 is in better shape than most I've seen but it's pretty bad imo. In that car I'll probably flock it or liner it like the outside in as close as a color match as I can find.

The G80 was not an option on a D body, because they have traction control. They also have 4 wheel antilock brakes, not the 2 front and 1 differential rear on the B body.

Is there an rpo option for traction control. I didn't think that existed in 96. Tbh I hate TC and would much prefer LS. Do you know if TC can be turned off or deleted? Is the system worth anything? Maybe I can sell it and recoup a bit of $, wishful thinking anyways haha

For Mr. -mafia, v. nice score. The Orig. Owner put together a pretty smart order. And that's my fave color for Fleetwoods, right behind the '03 Silverado Dk. Gray Met. I painted my first one

For an upgrade to the Bosch 4-chan TC, and even more to eliminate that system's bad habit of throwing the 'throttle relaxer' at the worst possible instances, I installed the 'normally open' Powertrax No-Slip, - with just regular handtools and no re-dialing anything. When called for, it's just a momentary lockup and you've got full posi, - and with the TC still energized:

No-Slip Traction System

www.powertrax.com

With the footie vents I'll lay $$$ every '93-'96 has it,. just find the slits in the carpet forward of the inboard seat anchor:
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I agree the previous owner had nice taste. What is the throttle relaxer? When I bought it I just assumed it was a more plush caprice but I'm discovering more and more significant differences! I'll for sure look into that power trax. Does it work with a fully stock setup to effectively provide posi?

In the pic you show is that what a proper vent looks like? When you say you'll lay $$$ I assume that means that you need them? Seems like something I could replicate tbh and of they're actually worth something I for sure would do it if people actually want them. I replicate and make tons of parts for myself and always think about trying to sell them but nobody else cares about most of the things I make.

Like 93-96 Fleetwood's with no vinyl top. Good color you got. I would have ordered a silver one with cloth seats and V4P if I went back in time.

Why cloth over leather? I always preferred leather because of durability but seems the leather in these cars is actually pretty fragile.

Here's the Comp-nine for your car.

Build Sheet (compnine.com)

This is amazing! Thank you! I don't know what a lot of those descriptions mean but I'll figure it out eventually. Is this for all cars?

 

[Mendonmafia]

All good suggestions but think I'm gonna keep it mostly stock in terms of drive train until things start breaking. Might delete the air pump and throttle body heating lines but not sure if its worth it. May also add the same short ram intake I have on my 9c1 because I like how the air dam helps keep the engine bay clean.

Finally took delivery of the car and I couldn't find the rear floor vents but I also noticed you cant have the floor vents on when the a.c. is on. The 9c1 has simillar issues but I can get cold air to come out of my floor vents. So I'll have to investigate this farther. Im looking for a road master climate unit as well.

The car is also in a bit rougher shape than I thought but still pretty clean. Even has a bit of new car smell some how. But it's missing a small piece of the black plastic trim on the passenger side rear bumper lower chrome trim. The pieces of chrome rocker just in front of the rear bumper trim were also screwed in and the one on the driver side is falling off. The driver inner wheel has a hold rusted through it and the passenger one is a bit rusty as well. Oddly the rust looks like its coming from the top/inside the engine bay. The trunk lock also doesn't work. I can still get in using the remote and button in the glove box (only when car is on, wtf?) But I'd like keyd entry as well. I knew the power antenna was missing but the replacement is hideous in person and I'm for sure trying to get the power antenna back in. Theres about a 5 in narrow strip of rust forming at the driver side of the rear windshield and there's about a 2x2 inch piece of paint missing from the opposite side but no rust yet. Also a few small dings and scratches and chips elsewhere but pretty minor. The gear identifier cable must have come disconnected or broke because it doesn't move when shifting. The driver side floor mat and the front carpet on the trans hump are also stained. And of course the cracked dash and broken window sliders (or related) that I Already knew about. but that's pretty much all the flaws I found so far.

Overall the car has way more features than I thought such as factory keyless entry, dimming rearview, cig lighters in the rear doors, map lights on the rearview, map lights, vanity mirrors with lights, and a few other things.

It also has a few things I'm not familar with such as the lights on top of the front fenders pointing into the windshield. Equalizer presets but is there any way to set them? Is there really no lumbar adjustment? I don't like the b pillar seat belt cover because there's no place for my elbow like there is in the 9c1, which basically renders the left armrest useless. I also dont like how you have to use the flip open handle to close the door. Theres no recess in the armrest to use. I know some caprice have both options but my 9c1 only has the armrest recess. But if I have to choose I like the 9c1 setup better for functionality (I 3d printed my own armrest savers).

Theres also a few things I need to research. The big one Is, Is there anyway to add Bluetooth to the factory cd and cassette radio? I used to have a 2000 300m with a 4 disc in dash changer and you could basically wire an aux port into one of the disc inputs, select that disc and it would provide aux. If you had a CD in that slot it would play both lol. I'm thinking about doing this to the cassette input but not sure if it's possible.

I'll try to take some pics tomorrow and look for the rear floor vents a little harder armed with what I know now

 

[Mendonmafia]

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[Mendonmafia]

Well I still didn't see if the vent grills are under the seat (been busy fixing the window rollers and door panels) but I verified that I do have air coming from under the rear seats.

Only did the front driver window so far. The front slider was completely broken and the rear one is cracked. Was planning to just leave the rear one until it breaks completely because I don't want to risk breaking the glass trying to pull it from the slider. I still have 7 gm rollers from the previous owner of my 9c1 (need to do the rears in that car too but they're manual and I rarely have people in the back sooo...) but they don't really roll despite cleaning the track and greasing the roller hole.

In the process I noticed that some of the Christmas tree clip mounting locations were completely seperated from the panel so I'm gluing them back on. Strange how different the door panel design is to my 9c1. 9c1 panel is all plastic around the bottom and the plastic breaks but in the FW the plastic bosses for the Xmas tree connectors are glued to the fiber door panel. There was no sign of the panel ever being removed in the FW so apparently after 28 years the glue GM used simply stopped sticking. I'm using super glue designed for plastic and rubber which I've been using on everything lately with great results but for some reason it's taking forever to bond these somewhat porous surfaces.

I tried to post pics of the car but for some reason the options are all grayed out...

 

[Mendonmafia]

Finally letting me post pics so here's a few for now.