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Do you know what car/truck it was?
Was the road unlit?
What was the speed limit, how fast was she going?
Was it a straight road etc.


I'm not arguing the point but I do have to bring in the fact there are multiple factors involved. For instance if she wasn't able to catch what type of car it was it could easily have been someone who had their high beams on. Obviously I don't expect these questions to be answered since it is a pretty traumatizing experience she went through so I hope she recovers well from it but without having the full context we just have word of mouth to go by.

The reason why I run it? I'm in a 4500 pound 27 year old car, if I'm driving like a blind mole that isn't exactly doing the public much favor either. So unless someone can do a proper A/B test with our cars and prove that the stock lights can provide as much illumination on the road I'll be sticking with what I have.

You could bring up insurance, but then you can bring up the same point about any modification, like removing ABS, removing the stock wheel, different wheels, or a big ol' 396 motor etc that all compromise the stock driving dynamic of the car, for better or for worse that doesn't really matter to insurance.
 

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All these LED headlights (OEM included)...fufilling the idea of the perceived safety of one at the reduced safety of everyone else around them.

10-15 years ago it was just the people who bought off ebay and such and it was 1:50 vehicles on the road. Now that the OEM's have subscribed to the above, it's practically all of them :(.

The justification "well, nobody is flashing their lights at me, so it must be ok" and "they have a really good cutoff" is all rationa-lie-zation and BS as well.
 

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All these LED headlights (OEM included)...fufilling the idea of the perceived safety of one at the reduced safety of everyone else around them.

10-15 years ago it was just the people who bought off ebay and such and it was 1:50 vehicles on the road. Now that the OEM's have subscribed to the above, it's practically all of them :(.

The justification "well, nobody is flashing their lights at me, so it must be ok" and "they have a really good cutoff" is all rationa-lie-zation and BS as well.
You're entitled to your opinion. No matter how wrong it is.
 

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No more so than folks driving with high beams that one can come across nearly every night.
 
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I wouldn't even mention the lifted trucks.
 

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Do you know what car/truck it was?
Was the road unlit?
What was the speed limit, how fast was she going?
Was it a straight road etc.
Car. But she has no idea what make/model.
The road was unlit.
Speed limit was 35. She's the type that doesn't speed. She's 50 years old. Not some young teen.
Road was straight.

I don't need to defend her. I also can't assume that the oncoming vehicle was modified. It could have been stock. She said it had a blue tint, which tells me aftermarket. Before the advent of LED headlights, someone could come at you with high beams on and it didn't blind you like the new LED lights do. Period. I could have said the same for HID lamps, but those have mostly been superseded by LED.

All I am asking is for people to be careful with their setup and do the proper aiming.

Unlike the other idiots on the road who buy a set of LED bulbs from Amazon and put crackle tunes on their cars, and think they have something special. Meanwhile they are blinding people and waking up the neighborhood. They are everywhere around me and it's getting disturbing. I've been around loud exhaust all my life. Crackle tunes are just obnoxious in every way. Rant over.
 

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crackle tunes are kinda retarded but they aren't that bad imo
I live in the suburbs, not out in the country. Thousands of cars pass through the neighborhoods here so traffic noise is one thing. But these tunes are another level. And they drive them in such a way, that they constantly downshift, coast down, and make them pop, then upshift. Or they just downshift at every intersection or turn. The pops are so loud it sounds like gunshots -- from within the house. The VW GT is the worse one. Two extremely loud pops every second when he downshifts. I might be on the Autistic spectrum and it startles me. Unnecessarily.

Would you still consider that to be "not that bad imo" ?
 

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And hear I am complaining because they haven't been able to get the pop OUT of my tune...
 
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I live in the suburbs, not out in the country. Thousands of cars pass through the neighborhoods here so traffic noise is one thing. But these tunes are another level. And they drive them in such a way, that they constantly downshift, coast down, and make them pop, then upshift. Or they just downshift at every intersection or turn. The pops are so loud it sounds like gunshots -- from within the house. The VW GT is the worse one. Two extremely loud pops every second when he downshifts. I might be on the Autistic spectrum and it startles me. Unnecessarily.

Would you still consider that to be "not that bad imo" ?
I too live in the suburbs and have a few buddies that have the burble tune. I just don't think they are THAT loud. Must be deaf

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I just don't find them to be that loud.
 

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Does a RiceKryspies exhaust make the car any faster? Somehow I seriously doubt it.
If the only thing it does is potentially attract the attention or sour the mood of bored cops, none for me, thanks.
 
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I too live in the suburbs and have a few buddies that have the burble tune. I just don't think they are THAT loud. Must be deaf

E92 M3, stock exhaust and cats iirc good cat back
2016 Charger Daytona edition, long tubes catless straight pipe
2014 Mustang GT, Open headers

I just don't find them to be that loud.
I think there are different "levels" of this type of tune. I can usually handle the normal V8 burble. Or even open headers.

But if you are OK with the cars in the following video then we agree to disagree or you really are deaf. LMAO. But this is what I'm dealing with. There is a veteran up the street that had to leave his home and move in with his son due to the PTSD caused by these cars.

 

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Wanna know where laws we dislike come from?
The legislative response to idiots like this. Beyond obnoxious.
 
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Wanna know where laws we dislike come from?
The legislative response to idiots like this. Beyond obnoxious.
Yep, agreed. I fear that someday laws will be passed banning all vehicle modifications. I mean these exhausts and blinding headlights are both pushing it too far. On the flip side, I know the cops in my township don't give a crap (or more honestly, understaffed). But the two neighboring townships have some "difficult" cops who pull people over for silly things. I guess the tuner punks convene in my township for this reason. I've called the non-emergency number to complain and got told "we will add it to the long list of complaints."
 

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For anyone wondering I went with the auxito 1157 bulbs for reverse lights. They are pretty good. Not sure how much better you can get with how small the housing is but they are better than nothing which is what I was rocking before 😂
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Post what they look like. Had something like that for fog lights. Was decent for a year , then they flickered. Different car tho
 
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