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LT1 has given up the ghost, replacing it with an LS

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The LT1 in my ‘96 is toast. Internal damage and the oil is chock full of metal that looks like I dumped glitter into it. I have been planning for a while to swap in an LS, so now is the time.

I hope you guys can take a quick look at this and let me know if I’m going to run into any issues.

I’m looking to put in a L92/L94/L99 variant.I’ve read the threads regarding swaps and have settled on the following:
  • L92/L94/L99 Gen IV engine (from a truck/SUV) EDIT: To comply with California regs and get my swap certified, I am limited to a passenger car engine. A truck/SUV engine would fail inspection.
  • F-body (LS1 style) oil pan (w/pickup, dipstick and tube)
  • Truck/SUV FEAD (I will be using an AC compressor and don’t want to notch the crossmember)
  • LS1 or LS6 intake manifold (truck intake is too tall) EDIT: LS3 intake to match the rectangular head ports
  • KDS mounts (for stock engine placement)
  • F-body exhaust manifolds w/F-body catalytic converters
  • 4L60e transmission with flex plate spacer. (I had my stock tranny rebuilt recently by a reputable builder who corrected all the factory weak points, so it is more robust than the stock one, but is not a ‘performance’ build.
  • Factory transmission crossmember (KDS mounts apparently allow for this)
  • Extended rear control arms (From what I understand, the tranny is shifted back slightly from stock, so if I want to use the stock driveshaft, I will need to add the extended rear control arms)
  • PCM from the donor truck
  • Harness from the donor truck
  • Drive by wire throttle (I would prefer a physical cable setup for simplicity, but apparently these were only available up to ‘03, which would force me to get a different harness than what came from the donor truck, and would require modifying) EDIT: pedal assembly, harness and MAF should come from donor truck
  • Factory fuel lines apparently do not need to be modified and will plug into the LS1 intake fuel rail (assuming it has a built in regulator)
  • Factory radiator will be ok capacity wise, but I’m not sure if the inlet and outlet are in the optimal locations
  • Intake plumbing and filter box from the donor truck?
  • Emissions equipment from the donor truck
I’m in the San Francisco area in California, and would need to keep all smog components functioning. I’m ok with the engine being stock for now. I can always change things out later. Originally I wanted to put in a LSA from a Cadillac CTS-V, but those are quite pricey. However I am thinking of swapping out the intake for a LSA supercharger in the future among other things like headers, cam, etc…

FYI, My ride is mostly street, however I auto cross it occasionally.

The big item I’m not sure about is the PCM and harness. I am reading up all I can in the threads about this subject and am slowly getting accustomed to what is involved. I understand that both the Impala and new wire harnesses would be needed to be married together. I want all the smog components to work when I’m done.

Any other roadblocks I am missing?
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Here’s 65 pages to get ya started….

Lot of chaff to sift through in that thread.

You will need an ls3 intake for the rectangle port heads on an l92.
If you use the factory pcm remember to get the maf and gas pedal from the donor.
You could also use a standalone to run it if you wanted more options (holley terminator).
The late model truck ac compressor is variable displacement and will possibly not work as well. You will need new (custom?) ac lines made.
If new A/C lines are needed just go to your local big truck repair shop. They should have the tools and parts needed for them.
You will need an ls3 intake for the rectangle port heads on an l92.
If you use the factory pcm remember to get the maf and gas pedal from the donor.
Thanks for the LS3 intake recommendation. I forgot about the port design on the heads. I suppose that depending on the donor model, I could possibly use the truck intake if it’s not too tall. I heard something about maybe the Trailblazer SS intake being a little shorter. I will look into that.

I will include the MAF and gas pedal in my list of things from the donor truck. Thanks.
If new A/C lines are needed just go to your local big truck repair shop. They should have the tools and parts needed for them.
Thanks, I live close to an area that is chock full of all sorts of automotive shops so that shouldn’t be a problem.
Trailblazer ss is cathedral port too.
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I'm trying to make it work with my lt1 right now but I have a built LS long block that I'm inches from putting into mine as well. I'm gonna follow this post. If you don't mind, can you document step by steps to help those of us who haven't ever done an LS swap? I've done plenty of LT1 and 4L60E swaps. The LS swaps make me kinda nervous a little because I'll be treading in uncharted waters. Your build could help a lot of us.
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agreed. please keep us updated. i fantasize about swapping the RMS.
No problem, I’ll keep you informed. Since I’m in a smog state (SF area in California) I can’t avoid all the smog checks. I set up an appointment with the state’s ‘Bureau of Automotive Repair’ which oversees approval of making these kind of swaps legal. I really need to get confirmation from them that what I’m planning is ok, but it will take them a couple weeks to get back to me. If anyone here has gone through this process here in California, please let me know. I just don’t want to do the work, then find out that I would never be approved.
You will need an ls3 intake for the rectangle port heads on an l92.
Do you know if the LS3 intake has an integral fuel regulator, or would I need the separate corvette one?

Just wondering if the stock fuel lines would plug in or not.
"Just wondering if the stock fuel lines would plug in or not."

Returnless style, so the larger feed is the only one used up front.
The larger feed line will plug into the LS3 fuel rail but is a tad long if I recall.
Think I shortened mine a bit.
You can get replacable stainless ends but one thing is these lines harden with age.
My fronts were less than 10 years old at the time.
Even if keeping the nylon which I did , now might be a good time to run new..
Also a good time to loose the coupling hiding in the left frame rail behind the front wheel

If you do the return type corvette you can put it in the stock location and remove the return forward of that point.
I can tell you right now, the state ref is automatically going to fail it if you use a truck motor. You can only swap a truck motor into another truck, legally at least for smog. You will need an L99 out of a SS or Camaro for it to be smog legal. Only car motors can get swapped into cars. Can you believe they consider an El Co a car for smog, but a truck for registration?! How stupid is that… anyway it really depends on your ref. If he’s super technical and by the book, it’s going to have to be a car motor. They do check the vin on the block to verify
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The LT1 in my ‘96 is toast. Internal damage and the oil is chock full of metal that looks like I dumped glitter into it. I have been planning for a while to swap in an LS, so now is the time.

I hope you guys can take a quick look at this and let me know if I’m going to run into any issues.

I’m looking to put in a L92/L94/L99 variant.I’ve read the threads regarding swaps and have settled on the following:
  • L92/L94/L99 Gen IV engine (from a truck/SUV)
  • F-body (LS1 style) oil pan (w/pickup, dipstick and tube)
  • Truck/SUV FEAD (I will be using an AC compressor and don’t want to notch the crossmember)
  • LS1 or LS6 intake manifold (truck intake is too tall) EDIT: LS3 intake to match the rectangular head ports
  • KDS mounts (for stock engine placement)
  • F-body exhaust manifolds w/F-body catalytic converters
  • 4L60e transmission with flex plate spacer. (I had my stock tranny rebuilt recently by a reputable builder who corrected all the factory weak points, so it is more robust than the stock one, but is not a ‘performance’ build.
  • Factory transmission crossmember (KDS mounts apparently allow for this)
  • Extended rear control arms (From what I understand, the tranny is shifted back slightly from stock, so if I want to use the stock driveshaft, I will need to add the extended rear control arms)
  • PCM from the donor truck
  • Harness from the donor truck
  • Drive by wire throttle (I would prefer a physical cable setup for simplicity, but apparently these were only available up to ‘03, which would force me to get a different harness than what came from the donor truck, and would require modifying) EDIT: pedal assembly, harness and MAF should come from donor truck
  • Factory fuel lines apparently do not need to be modified and will plug into the LS1 intake fuel rail (assuming it has a built in regulator)
  • Factory radiator will be ok capacity wise, but I’m not sure if the inlet and outlet are in the optimal locations
  • Intake plumbing and filter box from the donor truck?
  • Emissions equipment from the donor truck
I’m in the San Francisco area in California, and would need to keep all smog components functioning. I’m ok with the engine being stock for now. I can always change things out later. Originally I wanted to put in a LSA from a Cadillac CTS-V, but those are quite pricey. However I am thinking of swapping out the intake for a LSA supercharger in the future among other things like headers, cam, etc…

FYI, My ride is mostly street, however I auto cross it occasionally.

The big item I’m not sure about is the PCM and harness. I am reading up all I can in the threads about this subject and am slowly getting accustomed to what is involved. I understand that both the Impala and new wire harnesses would be needed to be married together. I want all the smog components to work when I’m done.

Any other roadblocks I am missing?
You can retain the stock lt1 ac compressor by using this bracket which mounts it up top on passenger side ls conversion brackets-LSSimpleHD6 Compressor mount kit 1994 Caprice Roadmaster / 1993-1996 Camaro Firebird V8 fs — LSSimple email [email][email protected][/email] with desired combonations
I will put this under " to each their own "
That AC ounting sure takes up a lot of real estate
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Not on my car thanks.

The other thing that sticks in my craw is paying large money for something and they make you advertise for them with giant etched or or milled name or logo
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I will put this under " to each their own "
That AC ounting sure takes up a lot of real estate
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Not on my car thanks.

The other thing that sticks in my craw is paying large money for something and they make you advertise for them with giant etched or or milled name or logo
Those are 2 separate brackets, the ac bracket actually works in conjunction with the stock ls truck fead, and the ac bracket doesn’t have the logo on it.
Am I seeing things that aren't there ?
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Well if you decide to use the LS compressor and make it work, you might have to notch the frame. Even if you get another bracket from a different manufacturer, most of them place it in the same location. And it’s not that bad really. Clears the overflow tank
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Need the vette one
Returnless style, so the larger feed is the only one used up front.
The larger feed line will plug into the LS3 fuel rail but is a tad long if I recall.
Think I shortened mine a bit.
You can get replacable stainless ends but one thing is these lines harden with age.
My fronts were less than 10 years old at the time.
Even if keeping the nylon which I did , now might be a good time to run new..
Also a good time to loose the coupling hiding in the left frame rail behind the front wheel

If you do the return type corvette you can put it in the stock location and remove the return forward of that point.
Got it. I did a YouTube search based on what you said and there are a couple videos where this guy went through the process and it was very easy.
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