Muscle Cars sound just fine with X pipes
Zero diff. between D- and B-bodies, except ~6" longer between cats and muff inlets. I've put a cheap Jegs/Summit H- kit on both of mine to take up the difference, and found the longest mufflers possible to take advantage of the room. My current hack-up is quite tame by any taste, but still want to cut in some Jones resonators in during a break in the action to increase the 'sophisticated refined deboner quiet power' tone........... Are the mufflers and resonators the same between the Fleetwood and the wagons, or no?
I had the mufflers on my 94 Fleetwood deleted by a shop. I left the OEM resonators and cats intact. The car was obnoxiously loud. As a teenager, I loved it, but people always thought it had glasspacks on it.
That's been a big +1 with everything I've ever read with actual measured results re: the X- v. H- socratic debating. As each consistently show both add like only 1 or 3 hp, then I think my tie-breaker being the H- is half to third the cost of an X- takes the cake. I'll take 'cheap' + .5 ft./lbs. more torque offline any day.My understanding:
H-pipe is usually for low RpM power, X-pipe is usually for high RpM power, though there are of course exceptions.
Not sure a Fleetwood V4P NEEDS an X-pipe, but it only hurts when you have to remove the entire exhaust to work on something under the car - otherwise, it's pretty kewl.
Thanx for that info yea i did some google searches was lookin at Jegs but it said it didnt fit the car.Unfortunately, not all of the necessary parts are still available to build the Frankenstein setup.
Jegs sells a catback for our cars for about $350 or so. If you want to spend more, you can buy something from Pypes or Magnaflow.
You also have the option of getting a local shop to bend up some pipe for you.
youre right i have the thread savedUh... no.
At one point in time, there was an actual part list that came to an exact dollar total. Don't make me search.
Jegs definitely makes a cat-back for 96 Impala.Thanx for that info yea i did some google searches was lookin at Jegs but it said it didnt fit the car
Dude, not to be a dick, but you have a habit of replying to threads without reading them. We already sorted out the Frankenstein thing.
Hope im replying correctly dont wanna piss anybody off lol but thanx for the info yea i saw the Jegs setup and read on a couple threads about the OTA issues. Appreciate the help.Unless things changed, both Jegs and Summit sell the same Heartthrobs catback. The OTAs can get to be either a tough or 'no fit' depending on if/what rear stab bar is installed.
+1. And the stock exhaust our cars have a nasty restriction right after the cats under the floor pan. Not ideal. And not a good comparison to a high quality 2.25" system.A PERFECTLY mandrel-curved 2.25" cat-back exhaust system would not be restrictive of up to 457 horse.
So sayeth David Vizard. Emphasis on no restrictions.
A kinked or crimped 2.25" pipe is at least as bad as a mandrel-curved 2.00" pipe.
2.50" pipe feels like a safeguard against restrictive kinks & crimps. Drone is the side effect of the compromise.
Yeah i saved that old post for a reference, great pics too.Funny seeing my 2013 post in this thread (# 29), but I still have that set up. I did replace the DynoMax OTA (PS) pipe with another one because it rusted out at the bend coming right out of the muffler. Probably could have had a muffler shop fix it but just bought another 2 1/2" one at Autozone for around $30. The Dynomax OTA pipes are generally NA but do come up occasionally. I bought the DS when it did at AZ
The stock SS exhaust was 2 1/4 stainless, including CATS. My replacement CATS are 2 1/2" so my entire exhaust is 2 1/2
My "Frankenstein" set up originally was a full DynoMax CAT back I put on in 97....but as mods evolved it became what it is now (post 29)
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