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Well I liked my old rims that I had but I decided to try something different out. I got a bug in my ass after I got an extremely good deal on a set of Baer brakes, but they weren't for an Imp of Caprice, so after talking with Baer (the secret society that WILL not give you any information), I decided to sell the kit, which I am hoping it will be gone here rather quickly, after talking with Tobin @ Kore3 about it.

Anyway, I was checking out different wheels didn't know what I wanted, but I did want to do a big brake set, so I found a set of calipers off a 2010 grand sport that had rolled off a truck at freeway speed. I got them for a VERY good price. One has some marks on it from the accident, but oh well, nothing a little touch up can't take care off.

So then I decided I would just go with the Z06 theme on my car, I could get the wheels pretty cheap, yeah I would have to run spacers, but who cares really, if they are designed right, there should be no problems with them. I bought a pair of spacers from Alex @ PCM performance he had laying around from Fred Goeske @ wheeladpaters.com. Anyway I knew these were made right, they are 3 inch adapters, but it would give me leeway if I had to cut them down at all. You will see why here in a second.

So after scouring the C6 forums, I located a set of wheels, chrome, from an 09 Z06, 18X9.5 in the front and 19X12 in the rear. After talking with the gentleman selling them, he wanted to part with the Goodyear supercar tires as well, with 900 miles on them. I got them at a steal.

Anyway I don't have the front mocked up yet as I want to get the brakes done then dink with the wheels and tires and make sure all the measurements are the same.

Here are the brakes. 6 piston front 4 piston rear, I will be using most of Tobin's stuff to complete the installation..

Here is a shot of the front calipers going on, same as the Z06 just in silver instead of red.


Rear tire size



Here is the rear wheel mocked up with the 3 inch spacer, you will see that there is plenty of room from frame to tire, I am going to cut 1/2 inch off the spacer to start, if I don't like how it sits in the fender I will notch the frame and bring it under further. I was pretty afraid as I didn't know if I would like them or not, but I think that they are going to come out pretty good.



Picture is deceiving but there is about 3/4 of inch of space in there.



How it hangs out right now


rear view
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Very nice work. It looks like there's not much clearance at the top between tire and frame. What size tire and wheel you runnin? They're lookin real nice back there. I'll bet they're going to add even more solid feel when driving also. How long did it take you to cut that one side? Did you use the plasma cutter or cut-off wheel? I wish I could of done mine myself. I'm jealous.
John
Hey John thanks, the distance from the frame to the tire is about 1 inch right now, they are 325/30/19, the rims are C6 Z06 vette wheels, 19X12's. They are just floating in there as I still have the rearend out of the car.

Plasma cutter all the way, I would of had to drop the frame to get in there with a cutoff wheel.

Solid feel maybe, I don't know I had 315's on it before, we will see. With the new brakes and everything it should be night and day, should is a big word though :)
dam mike...
nice i like i like!
I went back to page one of your post here and saw most of the info I asked you about above, and I regret the dum-ass question(s). I am very interested in you work as I'm close now to buying the two new rear tires for my set up. I'm still going with the 335/30/18's and they show 13.2" width overall. I'm hoping that's very accurate as it's going to be close. I only took away an 1" with the frame notch. Please keep us posted and more pics!
John
No problem man, one thing that I did do was jack the wheel and tire up as far as it would go, you start to get some resistance in the fender well at the top, only taking an inch, it maybe alright, I am assuming that the frame is even with the rib of the body that is right above the frame on your car?

Also make sure that you go with a 12 inch rim, this will limit tire bulge that you are going to have. I will keep this posted, it won't be on the wheels for about two weeks, maybe a smidge longer I have to get spacers for it yet, and I have a T56 installation coming in here in about the same time frame. So I have no choice but to get it done :)
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Well figured that I would update this a bit. The rear notch is complete and I will take more pictures this evening as I am going to stab the rearend back up in there.

Shot some paint in there and scraped all the b.s. rust flake off.

But I wanted to give a precursor of what the front is going to look like, I bought some 2 inch spacers just to get the wheels on the car and down and out of the way for the time being as I knew they would be, well good enough for that, they would priced well and I will be able to resell them when I get the custom ones made.

Here is a couple of pics of the front wheel on, I calculated the new spacer will be 1.3 inches or there abouts, the ones on there is 2 inches, so the wheel will suck in another 3/4's of an inch as well as when it has full weight on the car it will lower down another inch or so.






More pics later!
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looks good...

still cant wait to see the final product!
Thanks man, I think that I am going to pull an all nighter, I got the rearend in place, just have to do some final tightening of things. I am going to throw the 2 inch spacers on it for now all the way around and put on the wheels, I need to order up some good brake fluid and start the bleeding and make sure there are no leaks, knowing my luck it is going to be the line that is the biggest pain to get to the one right above the rear.

It is coming along, just wish I had more time. But I always take on sh** and don't think about that ;) More pics soon.
Thanks man, I think that I am going to pull an all nighter, I got the rearend in place, just have to do some final tightening of things. I am going to throw the 2 inch spacers on it for now all the way around and put on the wheels, I need to order up some good brake fluid and start the bleeding and make sure there are no leaks, knowing my luck it is going to be the line that is the biggest pain to get to the one right above the rear.

It is coming along, just wish I had more time. But I always take on sh** and don't think about that ;) More pics soon.

Hurry up bruh, u been teasing us for a long time now LOL
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AS promised more pictures this time of the rear, right as I stated above there is a 2 inch spacer in there, I calculated a spacer of 1.8 was going to be needs for the rear and 1.3 for the front, the front is for sure going to need that and I Will probably just put in what I calculated for the rear even though 2 inch units will work for the rear with a 9C1 axle, if I had an SS axle the spacer would be closer to 1 inch.

HEre you go, not the greatest pics, but I wanted you all to see what was going on with it.
Crappy picture here but you can see my new brake lines that I made up as I had to move the original brake hose bracket to the front of the axle since I moved the calipers.

Passenger side from the rear



Space from frame to anti scrub lip on tire, a little over an inch, to the first knuckle on my finger is exactly an inch.





back side of frame notch/narrowed section

View looking up from the drivers side, being there isn't full weight on the front yet, there rear is kindof crooked, but you get the idea, another .3 of an inch it will be perfect.



Drivers side looking forward, again springs are not settled by any means, just a precursor pic :)


Front to back drivers side



side shot showing the new brakes C6 Grandsport Brake Install Thread

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=257194




MORE LATER !!!!! :)
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Loooookin good.. Will be really good lookin once on the ground and rollin!! That is a bunch of hard custom work = $$$$.$$ to get where u are !! Roger..
Thanks Roger, how is your small modification coming along :)
don't mean to jack, but can this Tobin guy get my friends W body impala wheels to go on my B Body Impala?
don't mean to jack, but can this Tobin guy get my friends W body impala wheels to go on my B Body Impala?
Uh no, Tobin had nothing to do with the wheels and fitment, that was on me. HE deals with brakes and upgrades like that, I used a pseudo kit from him for that, but mainly the rear parking brake is a big thing that I figured out how to make it work. What I got from Tobin was the front C6 caliper brackets, front hubs, and rear caliper brackets.

Now that you say W wheels, are you talking the newer car platform? I am sure that you can make them work, but really why, I think that they would look really odd on a rear wheel drive car. But it isn't my car. PM me and I can tell you how to go about measuring for what you need.
Nice and tight. All that work is starting to pay off. Helpful pics. I'm going with the 335's in rear so they're going to be even closer to the frame than yours I think. Am a little nervous about just how close it's really going to be. The Toyo tires I just bought are massive, but simply awesome. Got a great deal on the bay - 2 for $265 plus $75 shipping. Am getting the wheels widened mid month. But will be painting the hoops afterwards, so I won't have it on the road again until later June. Will post up pics then too.
John
That is cool man, you shouldn't have an issue with the 335's seen them done alot of times. If them fit in the fender well and don't hit the frame you are good. But now that I remember you only had your frame narrowed by an inch right, it maybe close, but still should be ok.
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Well here you go, I had to set it on the ground just so you guys could see LOL, well ok I wanted to as well :)

Still need to get the right spacers for the front at least, the rears are close, but I maybe bring them in .2-.3 of an inch, front definitely needs .7 to .8 taken out of them.

Mind the mess, so much going on at once, my shop is a pig sty, but oh well. I will shoot more when I get it outside and stuff, but it isn't running at the moment and I think that I have to bleed the brakes one more time, there is a little moosh is the pedal still, I will get it, parking brakes work like a champ. :)













There you go more later.
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Looks good Mike!

Roger
Thanks man I will have to get some pics of it outside, but these will do for now, I still have to do stuff underneath of it, but couldn't wait :)
Tough man. I'd still like to see it lowered another inch or so, just to tighten it up and bring her full tilt. Hell, you're doing everything else maximum, but that's just me. And those breaks! Must work and feel "special" and look 10x better in person. Please keep us posted. Fun to see your work. You must have an even bigger small fortune in tools than I do.
Tough man. I'd still like to see it lowered another inch or so, just to tighten it up and bring her full tilt. Hell, you're doing everything else maximum, but that's just me. And those breaks! Must work and feel "special" and look 10x better in person. Please keep us posted. Fun to see your work. You must have an even bigger small fortune in tools than I do.
Thanks man, I am going to let it settle for a day or two and see where it rides out at, The springs that I have on it are hotchkis and I am not going to cut them up or anything, worst case I have to get another set later on down the line. But I love the way the car rides and handles with them. I think that the rear needs to come down another inch and the front should be alright. I will do some testing with some spring clamps and what not yo see if I can find the sweet spot for the rear. The front I just put in the ZQ8 bumpstops, and I trimmed off the recommended 1/4 of an inch, but it is riding pretty heavy on the bumpstop with just a 1/4 of an inch cut out.

Yeah you could say that I have a couple bucks in tools, my garage and the insides are insured for more than my house if that tells you anything. :)
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