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Not mine, at a local junk yard, but look how the full fame 93 Roadmaster saved this person life.
I have worked over 1000 car crashes, and 10 fatal crashes over 25 years in Law Enforcement.
They do not make cars like this anymore, this guy was probably hurt, but he was not dead.
This is one of the reasons I drive these cars.
 

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"And they walked away". That was a pretty hard hit. Look at the plastic gas tank and how it got smooshed into the frame. It's a shame it totaled the car but like you said at least they weren't killed.
 

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"And they walked away". That was a pretty hard hit. Look at the plastic gas tank and how it got smooshed into the frame. It's a shame it totaled the car but like you said at least they weren't killed.
I think you're correct on the driver's condition. No gore on the driver's seat. At least it wasn't a Pinto.

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I think you're correct on the driver's condition. No gore on the driver's seat. At least it wasn't a Pinto.

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Funny you should mention a Pinto. Back in High School my Girlfriend (now Wife 0:)) had a Pinto...along with a few of her friends. Her car was yellow and she had 3 friends who had a Baby Blue, Brown and ?? color Pinto....the "Pinto Girls Gang". I hated working on that car and really any FORD.

Anyway, IIRC there was a recall on the gas tanks exploding in the event of a rear end collision. Cant remember the fix (if any) but do remember there was a decal they gave you to put on your dash and think it was just some warning label to make the driver aware of this possibility. Ahhhh, the good ole days when we lived dangerously. :laugh: Really, what the hell was Ford thinking.
 

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Funny you should mention a Pinto. Back in High School my Girlfriend (now Wife 0:)) had a Pinto...along with a few of her friends. Her car was yellow and she had 3 friends who had a Baby Blue, Brown and ?? color Pinto....the "Pinto Girls Gang". I hated working on that car and really any FORD.

Anyway, IIRC there was a recall on the gas tanks exploding in the event of a rear end collision. Cant remember the fix (if any) but do remember there was a decal they gave you to put on your dash and think it was just some warning label to make the driver aware of this possibility. Ahhhh, the good ole days when we lived dangerously. :laugh: Really, what the hell was Ford thinking.
4Door, I remember the recall on the Pinto gas tank. It is something how we survived youth. How did we grow up without a cell phone or microwave? Going out the ****rie and camping at Col. Denning state park. Now I know why as you get older you start to loose your memory. It's difficult to think of what is gone. Seems the site has checked my spelling of country with a Pa. accent. And I remember there was a movie that a car just barely touched the rear bumper of a Pinto and it exploded. I just can't recall the title.

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Now I know why as you get older you start to loose your memory.
Tighten and recheck regularly?:wink2:

Really, what the hell was Ford thinking.
From memory Ford rerouted the exhaust system late in the design. The earlier gas tank design had a plug hole to vent gas in a rear end collision. After the changes it dumped the fuel on the hot exhaust. Ford then covered up and fought any one who suggested they had made a mistake.
 

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Ford made the same mistake on the 2000ish with the gas tank strap bolt on the P71 crown vic patrol cars punching into the gas tank with a moderate rear end hit. Large recall after several police officers burned to death, (one on video) to shorten the bolt, then put a Kevlar piece in between tank and bolt area, then later years, Ford installed a fire suppression system. I was in charge of our fleet also at our PD, so it was a huge deal to get everything changed out quickly.
 

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See this NHTSA report:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2001/INCR-SQ01014-23768P.pdf

It compares the CV to the Caprice.

Things that punctured the CV tank:
Safety brake mount bolt
Sway bar tab
Frame sharp points caused by collision.
Tank strap bolts

Ford installed a fire suppression system.
This was only on newer production P71(police) CV. This was for 70MPH rear end collisions.

The tank fire does happen in the B body but at a much lower rate.
 

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Not mine, at a local junk yard, but look how the full fame 93 Roadmaster saved this person life.
I have worked over 1000 car crashes, and 10 fatal crashes over 25 years in Law Enforcement.
They do not make cars like this anymore, this guy was probably hurt, but he was not dead.
This is one of the reasons I drive these cars.
Saved the guy in the front seat but what about people in the back?

Aren't "modern" cars built to stricter crash standards than cars 20 years ago?
 

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And I remember there was a movie that a car just barely touched the rear bumper of a Pinto and it exploded. I just can't recall the title.

Mark: Snowman-33


It's from a scene in the Blues Brother's movie. :grin2:

-ALF out...
 

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I'm very familiar with the "Blues Brothers" & that was the Pinto getting run off the very high over pass. This is the scene I was talking about.


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I sold My 96 DCM RMS to a kid in Indiana. He loved the car and I was downsizing at the moment (to a smaller car, shame on me) He talked back and forth for a while with me and my local B-Body club in Toledo to help with little issues. Well he made a big mistake and drove under the influence, and destroyed the car into a median and pole. He was hurt, but was told he should be dead after they cut him out. Luckily he didn't hurt anyone else, and also this insident he turned his life around... But it was hard to look at, the only thing recognizable was the color and a single Alloy wheel. I won't put the photo up unless someone wants to see it, its a little gut-wrenching
 

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I saw a Pinto on the Power Tour with some real looking flames. The only thin different was they started at the rea bumper and went forward to about 2/3 way onto the doors. Those of us that were older got it and it was funny.
 

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Cc bumper

I took a look at the front bumper and I could easily fix, but I have 7 or 8 of them in great shape stored away and no wants to buy them anymore, plus they take up way to much space.
Just like the wheel and center caps, I had a few sets of these and could sell them, so I just recycled them.
 

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I found this today at a local yard, once again this Olds wagon took a hit but the driver walked away maybe with a sore neck.
Did you grab the grille?
 

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You have 7 or 8 Olds front bumper covers in great shape you say? How much?
 
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