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Anybody have experience with these: Kicker

Can somebody explain the sound differences between sealed and ported enclosures? Thanks!

[ 10-26-2006, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: Miatabert ]
 
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at the shop

3, 12" went into an expedition ported

hit pretty loud and deep

i think being pushed by around 2000 watts of kicker amps

i think ported might hit a touch deeper

and sealed may get a bit louder

but with 8's i am not sure how deep , deep is
 
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U know its weird because i deal with these everyday and im currently building my system but cant decide which box to use
. The main difference is the vented box is designed to use less power sound a "touch deeper", another thing about the vented is that its alot easier to blow woofers in a vented enclousre with two much power, but dont get me wrong those F*****S sound good :rolleyes: . My things is sealed are made for more power but the bass is very gut renching. Sealed take up less space and get louder, but the sealed are made for faster music and the opposite for the vented. But anyway the SOLO BARIC produces 20% more air than a regular round speaker, cause the corners on the square woofer equals too 5% so 4 corners is 20% more air moved. MY FAVORITE :D !!!!!!!
 
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I wouldn't say that the sealed is "louder" or that ported is "slower" Like and audio junkie will tell you it's all about the build. I like ported boxes myself because sealed boxes arent very efficient. It takes more power to move the cone because of the sealed nature. Ported enclosures are easy to get loud with on low power levels. I've had ported boxes that sound just as good as a sealed box when it comes to sound quality; I listen to just about everything other than 50's so I know what music is supposed to sound like. It all matters how you tune a vented box. If you're looking for something that sounds good w/ all music, I'd do that 8 in a moderate sized vented enclosure w/ this amp. That'd be a nice setup and kickers manual only recommends 1cu ft. vented for that sub so you really wouldn't notice the lost space. Just my .02
BTW check out DIY Subwoofers for more info.
 
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With any sub there is a range of sealed or ported box volume for that sub. Will the sub perform best at the minimum, maximum, or nominal volume given by that suggested range?
 
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lets not forget SOLO BARIC was the original small sealed enlosure woofer.......in the late 90's...at that time they were round. talking to the KICKER rep and with my own experience the SOLO'S are more efficient in vented enclosures in the 2000's.
 
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Is this gonna be just a component sub? Are you going for SPL or SQ/ SQL?
Seeing that you're looking at an 8" i'm guessing you're looking for something to fill in the missing bass and give you some more definition in your music - there are better subs out there for SQ.
What front stage are you matching this up with? You want to find a good combination - front components + sub.
If you are going for a "boomy" sub -- make sure you look bigger than an 8"
An 8" can provide excellent -- tight accurate sound if that's what you're looking for.
 
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Just looking to fill in a little bass missing in my wagon so far. I recently installed an Alpine head unit, Eclipse 400W amp driving, 6.5 Infinity Kappa components in the doors and Infinity 6x9 in the rear panels. I have not purchased the sub amp yet. Good tight bass is more what I am looking for. I'm trying to build a custom box that will fit between the back seat and the third seat when it is deployed that is why I have chosen 8's. The is probably room for 3 or 4 of them if I have to go that far. Would prefer to stay with 2. I plan to split the lenght of the box and make 2 to make handling easier.

Advice?
 
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get some of these..

a guy hit 145db with them in a fart box... they are great as subs.. or midbasses...

i played with a couple and sold a couple more to someone on here as rear deck ib subs...

hard to beat and they are crazy little monsters

eu 700

or some of these... less performance, bland looks, but still an effective little turd
dayton 8"

or some bass cannons.... not the best sq, but an effective fill for lower frequencies at low volume
 
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I'd stick w/ two 8"s -- the more you get the louder - not necessarly deeper; so unless you are trying to impress cars next to you or your neighbors two quality 8"s should sound great and more than fill in any missing bass.

Alpine and Eclipse are great brands. For your 8"s I'd look at Focal or JL.

Check out Focal 21V2 or JL 8W7
For amp I'd go alpine: PDX 4.150 bridged to really push those subs.

Those are higher end stuff - you'd get great, clean tight bass and any volume level.
.... but .... if the install sucks they will sound like crap; but that's the truth with any install. Don't invest in high end stuff w/ a low end install.
I'm not stating that against you installing and making the box -- just a rule of thumb to everyone.

Good luck
 
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