[Caddylack]

My experience with two FWBs has been that the oem (FE1) rear bar is appreciably visibly really smaller dia. than the SS bar. On my first one I replaced the oem front with the SS front from my SS (which itself then got an F-body bar), and then replaced the stock rear (the notably skinnier one) with the SS'es rear bar (which then itself got an HO rear). I then 'added' the FWB rear bar back onto the SS rear bar for no less understeer than without it (still shoved in corners even with 255/50-17 - Bilstien - old sacked out SS coils) So, I then got another SS bar from a friend and doubled them up back there. Now THAT ran it much flatter = very nice. And yes, more oversteer.
For my current FWB I got an SS bar for the front and took the second rear SS bar off the other FWB for the back as I don't need the current driver quite as road-hugging. There's another FWB regular on here who saw about my doubles and decided to just combine the oem rear bar with an SS bar and he's pleased. Just a bunch of reference FWIW.

The R1P cars have the SS/9C1 sway bars.

 

[96 Black]

The R1P cars have the SS/9C1 sway bars.

That would make perfect sense, and a good little piece of intel if looking over a livery model. Makes me wonder what the V4P trailer spec has hidden underneath.

Boy, lookie what the first hit on a search drug up. These guys were a couple quite ancient posters:

Difference between R1P and regular Fleetwoods

I got the WS6 front swaybar put on this weekend, and noticed that the car already had poly endlink bushings on it. Also, the sway bar I removed seemed nearly as big as the WS6, maybe 9C1 size? Does it have a thicker frame like the 9C1 does etcetera etcetera... ...?

www.cadillacforums.com

 

[95wagon]

Ah the old Deanstud car,
1G6DW52PXSR705218

 

[96 Black]

I recall t'was a Livery, but the VIN does not bring up anything near any pics as does neither any links he'd shown himself. Same case for Katshot's FTS (incidentally why I named mine FTSS after finding he'd used it already). Having fits finding the old threads with any working pics. When I got mine from in front of a Dayton OH funeral home in '01 (52k miles and $11k) I took right off to hating the chrome everywhere and I think the 3 of us came up with monochrome body color all around the same time. Funny, I traded posts with Katshot's son who got the car, but got swallowed by work for years and lost track of errone.
WTH's this got to do with swaybars?

 

[95wagon]

I remembered reading its PCM at a mod day about twenty years ago , and dug up the file

 

[Marky Dissod]

WTH's this got to do with swaybars?

As in, besides the fact that Katshot chose the FTS' suspension mods wisely?

 

[Caddylack]

Just to be clear: When some people think of "livery", they think actual limousine. The R1P package is the livery/fleet package for the standard Fleetwood sedan.

In other words, we are not talking about limos, parade floats, or hearses.

 

[1slow96]

Thoiught you meant "RIP" package ,not R1P.... Assuming hearses= RIP.......

 

[GoremanX]

Missed opportunity by GM, I guess...

 

[PD939C1]

Maybe an tiny exploratory hole sideways in the arm on the centerline of the main bar.
My thinking , you would get an answer without ruining a good sway bar.

I've seen both solid and hollow bars. Only ever seen hollow ones break. Before you drill anything, examine the ends of the bar. If it was bent from tubing, you can usually see a seam where the ends were flattened. If the bar is off you may also be able to see a seam in the hole for the attachment link.

 

[95wagon]

What 91-96 B body or 70-81 F body have you seen a production hollow bar on ??

 

[PD939C1]

What 91-96 B body or 70-81 F body have you seen a production hollow bar on ??

I didn't mean to imply I've seen them on those specific vehicles. Only that I've seen hollow bars on other GM vehicles I've owned. Specifically, Buick Century and Pontiac Montana. But really the point was how to identify the construction of the bar before drilling it and, possibly, compromising it in the process.

 

[Caddylack]

Thoiught you meant "RIP" package ,not R1P.... Assuming hearses= RIP.......

Uh...

I'm not aware of an actual "RIP" code, just "R1P". I don't think hearses have their own RPO, but @Fix Until Broke might know.

I don't think GM built hearses. Private companies would buy base model fleet cars (R1P) and then modify them.

 

[Marky Dissod]

... hearses have their own RPO ...

R1P: livery
V4P: 7000lb tow
V4U: coachbuilder limo
B9Q: hearse
B05: armour

 

[Caddylack]

R1P: livery
V4P: 7000lb tow
V4U: coachbuilder limo
B9Q: hearse
B05: armour

Ah, okay. But, definitely no "RIP".

Did GM actually build the limos and hearses, or did they have the RPO just for cars that were being sent to the builders?

 

[95wagon]

RIP , he was making a joke ,,,,,
B9Q, was missing specific parts IIR . Look at B35 parts lists in the parts book .
There is a bunch of " except B9Q " or " with B9Q"
My notes from back in 2005 show it missing things like rear speakers , seat mounts, moldings , quarter glass etc

 

[95wagon]

b-body hearse

im new to this forum and was wondering how rare a caprice hearse is ive personally never seen one i plan on gettin pictures this weekend the guy who owns the junkyard is a close friend and was wondering if it would be worth trying to revive over al its nice outside and needs top rewraped i think...

www.impalassforum.com

 

[Caddylack]

RIP , he was making a joke ,,,,,

He was absolutely not making a joke when he made the comment about RIP for hearses.

I've seen others make this same mistake in the past, not realizing the "I" is a "1".

 

[95wagon]

Rest In Piece ?

You say he wasnt joking ?
1SLOW96 is pretty intelligent, but I will take your word ,,,,

 

[Caddylack]

Rest In Piece ?

You say he wasnt joking ?
1SLOW96 is pretty intelligent, but I will take your word ,,,,

I understand what RIP means... He was not joking, based on the way the post was worded.