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I'm wondering if any you guys ever heard about Vogtland Springs. I want to know if its any good or not. There is a company in California that is selling them through e-Bay. They are claiming these springs are better than Eibach and H & R springs. I'm trying to find out if there is anyone or someone you know that put the Vogtland Springs on there car.
 
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stick with the ones people have already put into there cars. Hotchkis, Intrax, ect....
 
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What are the spring rates?

If the company can't tell you that, it's a pretty good idea that you should avoid these springs ;)
 
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Vogtland springs are VERY good springs. Used in NASCAR, IRL, and other racing leagues. They are not some new ricer fad ;) They are a German company and make springs for many of the tuner cars over there.

I recently installed a set of Vogtland springs on my 1995 Acura Integra GS-R daily driver and was very impressed. The ride was barely affected and the handling is 100% better. Never seen them on an Impy but I am pleased with them on my Integra.

Hope that helps.
 
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OK, so it's a reputable company. That's a plus. :D

Still would want to see the spring rates though....
 
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Originally posted by AutocroSSer:
OK, so it's a reputable company. That's a plus. :D

Still would want to see the spring rates though....
I had never heard of them either and started doing some research. I seem to remember that their spring rates were listed on the product info sheet, although I am not 100% positive.
 
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well since i can't never seem to beat anyone out of some old tired impala ss springs here in a month i'm gonna try em
 
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This may be an alternative to the Hotchkis springs I've been waiting on for OVER 3 months. Last I knew it sounded like the springs are stuck at CUSTOMS.... Maybe Hotchkis is shipping more than automotive parts to the U.S...

I emailed the Guy on Ebay to see how many sets of these he can get his hands on.. This may be a good alternative to stock/Eibach/Hotchkis springs.
 
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So, I see there are still no spring rate numbers on these :rolleyes:
 
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When Vogtland first came to the US market, there was no B-body spring available. I remember talking to them at the LA auto show a couple of years ago and asking about coverage--very interesting catalog, I might add.....I do recall that they had the V10 Police prototype CV there at their display, so they had the other brand covered already.

Good to hear they are now in the GM market, but I can't find a US website. They have a facility in SoCal--I think in Murrieta or Temecula, if someone wants to investigate further.

Inquiring minds....

Tom, if you need a set of Hotchkis springs, let me know--I have a set available.
 
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I know someone that just purchase the vogtland springs for his impala. I had sent him an e-mail asking....what does he know about the springs.
He told me he did a research on the springs and got enough info that convinced him to buy them. Still no spring rates available on the vogtland springs for the Impala SS. He will keep me posted on the springs after he install it. I'll let you guys know within 2 weeks if the springs are anygood or not.
 
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There is no website for Vogtland. Not that I know of anyway. The company is located in California. They do sell the Vogtland springs on the internet through e-bay.
 
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http://www.vogtland.com/

There's the link to the site. It doesn't say much about our application though.

I was curious about my H&Rs spring rates, so I phoned them. All she could tell me was 25-30% more than stock.(if I remember correctly) Maybe someone could call Vogtland.

Jeff
 
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Very interested looking for springs.How much for four $ ???? Some one please let me know how they work. Group purchase????????
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I contacted the seller on eBay who handles these springs. Here's the info he gave me-


Front Unloaded height 392 mm
Front Loaded height 253 mm
Rear Unloaded height N/A
Rear Loaded height 239 mm

Front Compressed final rate 628 lbs.
Front Initial rate 364 lbs
Rear Compressed final rate 222 lbs
Rear Initial rate 120 lbs

Front wire Diameter 17.5 mm
rear wire Diameter 14 mm

They're $189 a set, shipping is $35 out of San Diego.
 
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I've also asked about GP's & volume purchases. He's going to see what best deal he can do & get back to me. I'll post his replies as I get them.
 
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Thanks Kevan


FYI, those are similar rates and drops to the Hotchkis springs. Appears both are progressive springs, which is good for ride comfort (albeit not desirable for "ultimate" handling). These should ride a little, but not a lot, stiffer than stock. Stock SS and 9C1 springs are linear, 440 lb/in in front and 160 lb/in in back (same rates on either spring set for 94-96, the 9C1 springs are just taller).

Put in plain terms, the initial "hit" on these Vogtland springs will be a bit softer than stock, but they get stiffer the more you compress them.

From the description, I'd consider these springs if you are already looking at the Hotchkis springs. Looks like we need a few guinea pigs....and may have found some in this thread :D

bodean : not sure on the H&R Spring rate in back, but their front springs are linear and around 600 lb/in. The Global West front springs I am running are 750 lb/in off-the-shelf, and as modified by me (slightly cut, which increases rate) they are somewhere between 750 and 800 lb/in. That said, you can increase the front rate (a lot!) without impacting ride quality all that much, but increase rear rate even a little (as little as 10-15%) and you'll notice it.
 
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Thanx for the insight Ed. I'm going to order a set of these for my '95, but I'm going to hold off to see what sort deal he's willing to offer first. I don't mind being a guinea pig. If I can find a set of those Monroe Severe Service shoks up here in the Frozen North, Id like to try those with a set of these springs too. Not sure if the shocks would be too long or not though. Any ideas there?
 
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