[Driftwood]

The CV bar on any B-body will not reduce the rear axle side to side movement a all, the only thing it will do is flatten the car in turns. The B-bodies have a serious issue with rear axle side to side movement that can be limited with stronger lower control arms with stiff bushings, or the factory design swaybar. If you are going to do a CV bar you should still do lower control arms to limit that movement as well, and handling will really be improved drastically.

Happy modding, time for me to get a CV bar.

 

[MrBuick (Magnum)]

Before I 'discovered' the Crown Vic to wagon rear swaybar swap.

The full sized Bronco/F-150 ('80-'96) rear sway bar assembly will actually bolt right in some applications, and,,,,, is a 'almost' direct bolt in, on other applications! The length of the mounting link bolts will have to be shortened.

That bar is pretty big, IIRC. The one on my dads 4wd 95 F-150 is bigger than the one on the back of the 95 Town Car we have. I thought about taking some measurements off it. I was looking under an 80's bronco at the yard, and the rear bar on that thing was monstrous.

 

[MrBuick (Magnum)]

In '98 they went from a panhard rod to a watts link. Since thats behind and above the axle I can not see it making a difference how the sway bar mounts.

The pre 98 Ford fullsizes did NOT have a panhard bar. If they did.... then the Crown Vics are different than the Town Cars... Or I'm just extremely blind.

I was under out 95 Town Car a few days ago. I was just under a 2000 Town Car tonight, and I see what they did. The pre 98 setup is JUST like a B-body. Parallel lower control arms, and triangulated upper arms to center the axle. 98 and newer, they have much MUCH smaller lower control arms that have vitually no side to side strength. THe uppers are moved to the outside just on top of the lowers. Then you have a watts linkage on the top of the pinion area on the axle. To be honest, it looks like a much better setup than what the General gave us. I wonder what a watts linkage on a B-body would do. Tad already showed that a panhard bar does wonders.



The sway bar setup on the 2000 Town Car looked the same as the setup on the 95 Town Car.

The CV bar on any B-body will not reduce the rear axle side to side movement a all, the only thing it will do is flatten the car in turns. The B-bodies have a serious issue with rear axle side to side movement that can be limited with stronger lower control arms with stiff bushings, or the factory design swaybar. If you are going to do a CV bar you should still do lower control arms to limit that movement as well, and handling will really be improved drastically.

You should mention you did the rear LCA's on your wagon, and saw this improvement first hand. Which brings me back to the watts linkage. I really would be temtped to put one on a B-body, if I was concerned at all with how my cars handle.

 

[SScottT]

My Turn!

I'm going to give this bar a try... My wgn is *almost* dialed in!!! Yeehaw!!!

 

[impalassdude]

I'm going to give this bar a try... My wgn is *almost* dialed in!!! Yeehaw!!!

Will be one of the best mods you every do on a wagon.

 

[r67northern]

Got another convert here -- what a great mod. The addition of the swaybar really makes the wagon into something that feels more like "it can take care of itself." I generally don't ask these big cars to do anything outrageous, but even for standard driving around town this makes a huge difference. 10/10? absolutely.

 

[surfwgn]

Just did this mod to my 94 RMW, works great , got my bar from the local ford dealer 64 clams and the rest from summit, took me about 2 hours to do the work.

Thanks again for posting this great mod

Cheers

Will

 

[Moparman]

Just bringing it back up as some new wagon owners may have have seen this modification before.

Still no trouble with my setup. Handles great.

 

[justzukin]

Clear a Ford 9" center section?

I am interested in installing the crown vic sway bar on my 94 caprice wagon but I am concerned it may hit the 3rd member as I have a 9" ford. I can't determine from the pictures. I assume I could roll the sway bar axle mounts rearward slightly or space the sway bar slightly off the axle tube. Any thoughts besides order it and see?

 

[ssffnomad]

RMW, Crown Vic Bar, Thanks to everone for posting info. Installed awhile back, finally getting Pics off Phone.
Started with a U Bolt, not a exhaust clamp, had to add more threads.

 

[ssffnomad]

Weld a flat plate to top of Exhaust Clamp

 

[Al Von]

Wow, nice job! Those brackets arent going anywhere!

 

[ssffnomad]

Thanks

 

[stvstvns]

So this mod will or won't make a side to side movement improvement? I'm looking for a mod to help with towing heavier loads. I was told that mod would be a sway bar but now I'm reading a slightly different story.

 

[MrBuick (Magnum)]

I have been looking under Crown Vics, and Town Cars at the local U-pull it yards for the better part of two years. The largest bars I was finding, was the run of the mill Town Car bar in a 17mm. Finally, I came across a 21mm rear bar on a 94ish Crown Victoria. It was a very high optioned car with an ECC, leather, power seats, and had air springs originally. And the icing on the cake, was it was half off day the next weekend. Cost me $15 out the door on a half price day.

I look forward to putting this on my wagon, and boxing up my stock LCA's.

I found this video on YouTube, and thought it was a pretty good process for doing things on the cheap.

 

[Al Von]

So this mod will or won't make a side to side movement improvement? I'm looking for a mod to help with towing heavier loads. I was told that mod would be a sway bar but now I'm reading a slightly different story.

It IS a mod for a sway bar, to improve handling and cornering. How would that not help with towing? It wont improve towing capacity, but certainly improve handling and cornering while towing OR empty.

 

[Al Von]

WOW Cory, great video! Thanks for posting that.

 

[TheFleshRocket]

So, what front sway bar is the best match for the 21mm CV rear sway bar, for the most neutral (or slightly-biased-towards-oversteer) handling?

 

[RoadMattster]

Wow, glad to see that this mod has caught on and so many people have success with it- before the big server crash I had read tonales account of his swaybar solution and came up with this modified version with the muffler clamps and marauder bar. I had posted photos and a writeup with parts list also, but it was all of course lost. I have been off this site for a while because I have had to put the RMW on ice for the last few years due to financial constraints, so when I checked in recently I was surprised to see how widely the mod has caught on.

Unfortunately I hadn’t saved any of the info from my original post, but I see that my original parts list managed to make it through the carnage somehow. The only problem I have had with this mod was when I transferred it to a new wagon I didn’t tighten the muffler clamp enough and lost my nuts and clamps on the road somewhere. This time I put nylock nuts on to be safe. Also, 5/8” holes are adequate for the endlink mounting points (if you check that is the same size as the holes in the bar).

 

[Riverman]

Stock alert

Can't speak to all the bars that were listed with Ford numbers, but the Sway Bar: Ford YW7Z-5A772-C; the largest diameter - 21mm is about to go discontinued I believe. If you check with Ford, you will find out inventory is down around 6 parts.

Get 'em while you can!