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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 11:36 AM
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Hi guys! At almost 43 years old, I think I deserve a bigger and more comfortable ride than my old Honda and I've decided I want a 92-96 Caprice. I've read most of the threads on this and other sites and have pieces of the puzzle but can somebody, in a very simple list, tell me the differences between a 9C1 and a civilian Caprice? Why would I want one over the other?
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 12:03 PM
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First, for differences, you can go here:
http://www.9C1.com

Look at the brochure info, which tells you what upgrades the 9C1 has. For '94-'96, you get 4 wheel disc brakes, where a civilian Caprice does not. An Impala SS of course has 4WDB. You get lifetime (I'm not sure WHOS lifetime) green silicone radiator hoses. Generally, the best reason for getting a 9C1 is the price vs. a civilian Caprice. You can get '92-'93 9C1s for giveaway prices, and get a '94-'96 LT1 9C1 for a fraction of what you'd pay for a civilian LT1 or Impala SS. But, in tradeoff, you get a car that could possibly been abused or neglected. I've seen 9C1s that are completly trashed, and I've seen some that look better than most individuals keep their cars. Try to find a car that was not a marked patrol car. A lot of governments bought a fleet of 9C1s, with some going into patrol, and some going to administator-type people. I just bought a P71 (police pkg.) Crown Victoria (don't laugh) that was driven by a county judge. Clean as could be. So, in summary, decide what you are going to do with/to the car and purchase accordingly. If you want to make an Impala SS clone, get a 9C1. If you just want a comfortable Caprice, get a civilian car.
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 12:34 PM
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Bassman,
Give more information, such as the total amount you want to spend on this car.
Keep in mind purchase price is one thing.
Many Caprice owners also doing mechanical, exterior, and interior modifications to their cars.....It's fun.
 
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 01:26 PM
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Checking the link posted aboveis probably the most complete list but here are some things off the top of my head.
9C1 -
-Thicker frame
-rearwheel disc brakes
-engine oil cooler
-HD hoses (radiator heater etc.)
-Re-enforced front lower control arms
5/8" ball joints (civies have 9/16)
-Heavier front brake pads
-Body bushings already in place
-PCM programmed for a higher speed limiter(130 as opposed to 108)
-Gear ratio may already be 3.42 (civie is probably 2.56, 2.73, 2.93)
The civie has a nicer interior leather, pwr everything. Most 9C1s are spartan as hell. But if you find a nice 9C1, it is easier to spruce up the interior than to bring a Civie up to 9C1 mech specs. My $.02 worth.
Oh and one othe thing, a nice Caprice will cost between 8 & 10 grand (depending on location) and a 9C1 can be anywhere from 1500 to 5000 bucks.
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post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 02:21 PM
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Excellent! That's the kind of input I'm looking for. I'm a little unconvinced about price however. Maybe it's just because I'm here in Calif, but even the 9C1's are going to $7K-10K. Does anyone know how hard it is to buy a Texas car (for example) and bring it to Calif?
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 02:50 PM
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bassman,
I think that you are seeing the elevated prices in Ca. is because ather than give up their 9C1s, the police opted to refurbish the cars. This included all new front suspension and in many cases new GM crate motors. I believe these were preformed every 80 - 100k miles to the tune of about 12000 bucks. AS far as getting a TX car I would type in ex police cars (or something to that effect) in your browser. There are several places that specialize in this area. May find a diamond in the rough.
JP
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 03:52 PM
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Civie: More creature comfort stuff. Like map lights in the mirrors, power antennas, twilight sentinal, better radio.

92-93 Caprice LTZ are loaded civvie Caprices with all the cop stuff. The real basis for the Impala IMHO.

Rear disks are a 94-96 thing, so don't think it's a fake 9C1 in 91-93.
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 03:53 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jpalmer:
bassman,
I think that you are seeing the elevated prices in Ca. is because ather than give up their 9C1s, the police opted to refurbish the cars. This included all new front suspension and in many cases new GM crate motors. I believe these were preformed every 80 - 100k miles to the tune of about 12000 bucks. AS far as getting a TX car I would type in ex police cars (or something to that effect) in your browser. There are several places that specialize in this area. May find a diamond in the rough.
JP
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've found a couple in Texas. You think they would know what's required to make it a CA car?
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 04:11 PM
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Bassman,

I just bought a Texas 9C1, email me direct if you want to know all the details about it. I paid 1000 for a car that drove 2000 miles without a hitch, AND I LOVE IT!

I'll let you know the details and all that if you're interested.

Also, get on the local owners group:
http://www.regionofdoom.com

L8
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-16-2002, 04:29 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucas:
Bassman,

I just bought a Texas 9C1, email me direct if you want to know all the details about it. I paid 1000 for a car that drove 2000 miles without a hitch, AND I LOVE IT!

I'll let you know the details and all that if you're interested.

Also, get on the local owners group:
http://www.rogionofdoom.com

L8
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Watch for email.
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