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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-16-2001, 07:26 AM
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There is a black 96 caprice civi 9C1 for sale by me. It has a tan cloth interior and other than 2 door dings very clean. It has 75,000 miles. They are asking $8,500.00. What does everyone think?

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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-16-2001, 08:13 AM
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Ummm... There is no Civi-9C1. It's either a Civi with a 4.3L, or the 5.7L LT1 V-8, but with a 7.5" rear end and drum brakes. Or it is a 9C1 with a 4.3 or 5.7, but with the 8.5" rear and disc brakes at all 4 corners.
You need to find out more info to ask your question. Things like:
Engine
Drivetrain
9C1 or Civi
How it performs, ie test-drive

These little things can definately determine the "value" of a Caprice.
I would say if it is a true 9C1 with an LT1 it is a bit high for that car, maybe more like $7000, if it is really clean.
If it is a civi, then I guess you gotta think about what options you want and what you plan to do with it. If you want to clone it to WX3 status, then you'd be better off IMHO, to go with a 9C1. But if you are looking for the best car GM made that seats 5+, and can get to where ever you want to go with authority, then maybe this your car.
Personally I would say it's too much, whatever variety it is.
post #3 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-16-2001, 09:31 AM
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It has the 5.7 engine and the eighth number/letter is a "P". She bought the lease out from a friend of her parents and said that he ordered it with the 9C1 options. I didn't check the rear end for what type of brakes it had. I did drive it and although it didn't have the pull of my 94 Impala it still had really good get up and go. [img]smile.gif[/img]
She is selling it because, believe it or not, it is too small for her family. She is getting a mini-van.
 
post #4 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-16-2001, 10:27 AM
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If it doesn't have the pull of an Impala but it has an LT1 then it is probably a civilian car, not a 9C1. I say this because the civilian car had different rear end gears (not as good as the 9C1) and also probably has a mechanical cooling fan. Just pop the trunk and look at the sticker on the underside of the trunklid to be sure. If you don't see 9C1, then it isn't a 9C1, but I don't think it is.

Also, if it isn't a 9C1, then it wont have the heavier duty frame rails that a 9C1 has, and it probably wont have the other heavy duty thigns in it that a 9C1 has. It might not even have the stronger alternator that the 9C1 and Impala got.
post #5 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-16-2001, 10:58 AM
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if you're gonna be adding the WX3 option to it then you're better off buying a cheaper 9C1 and going from there.

around here, a 94 9C1 with 100K goes for $2500-$2700 at the auctions all day long. and this is for a west coast-no salt-no snow-no rust car.


a 95 with 65K went for $3200 at the last auction, so $8500 is NUTS. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #6 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-17-2001, 07:47 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mike454SS:
If it doesn't have the pull of an Impala but it has an LT1 then it is probably a civilian car, not a 9C1. I say this because the civilian car had different rear end gears (not as good as the 9C1) and also probably has a mechanical cooling fan. .

It might not even have the stronger alternator that the 9C1 and Impala got.
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Why is it that everyone seems to think the civi cars run slower than a SS or 9C1?? My civi with VO8 and GW9 2.93 axle ran a 14.68 STOCK!!! Somebody must have forgot to tell the car and me that while we were at the track. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

ALL LT1 cars got the 140 amp alternator, regardless of what form they came in.

And you could get a 3.23 LT1 civi car (95-96 have a 3.42 listed as available also), which are better gears than a SS or 9C1 got.
post #7 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-17-2001, 10:42 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> My civi with VO8 and GW9 2.93 axle ran a 14.68 STOCK!!! Somebody must have forgot to tell the car and me that while we were at the track <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

?????????????????
something is wrong with the timing device of the track you're running on ( this is not a smart comment, it's a real possibility, I've seen it with my own eyes).
I'm sure you ran what you say you ran, but there's no way on God's green earth that you can run that on a "stock" caprice.

if you did, you're the "one and only".
specially when there are over 250,000 other caprice and impala's that never ran that, even with higher gears.

my car with opened up exhaust, SSRI, hypertech, 3.42 gears ran 14.60 ( rolled off the line, didn't load the convertor), so I'm having a hard time accepting your timeslip.
run the car at a different track to get the "real" time.
what were the 60' times, I'm curious.
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post #8 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-17-2001, 11:26 PM
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Maybe he was in death valley on a really cold day (I don't think those 2 things belong in the same sentence but I've never been there).

From what I hear, death valley is below sea level, and cold air makes your engine run stronger, so I'm coming up with a hypothetical thingy, I don't know if death valley ever gets cold. I know that my car was a monster, it could smoke the impala SS tires freely without aid of the brakes even if the car was already rolling a bit, and I'm sure that stock it would probably be a low 15 in the quarter, and thats with electric fans and 3.08 gears and a posi. I never got it to the track, but I don't think a stock 94-96 caprice (and by stock I mean exactly the way it came from the showroom, no disconnected belt or any other tricks) could ever run a 14.68 without some sort of perfect weather conditions or a slightly "off" timing device. Can't trust a G-Tech too much here either. It is very very close to accurate, but isn't the same as a track timer, plus the G-Tech gives you instant speed at the end of the run, the track timer gives you average over the last part of the track, I forget how many feet it averages it over).
post #9 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-18-2001, 11:03 AM
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I dunno if you guys have ever noticed, but Sleeper really knows his stuff. I think that timeslip sounds a little off, but I do not doubt Sleeper. Sleeper, can you scan the slip and clear all this up?
post #10 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-18-2001, 11:12 AM
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Dennis, I have a 95- 9C1 with 76,000. LT1 and loaded. Tilt,cruise,pw,plocks, Alpine stereo. Cold AC. Former Secret Service, No holes. I will take $6500 and deliver it to your door in Blaine, MN. Email if interested. [email protected]
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