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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 07-01-2016, 07:55 AM Thread Starter
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NEW Eibach 3837.140 kit... front is too high?

I had issues with my car being too low. One was I scraped on everything, and second I just kept getting hassled by everyone when trying to get it inspected. ALSO, upon inspection of the OLD springs, one was sagging pretty good. This was an Eibach kit from years ago that I don't know the part number. It was their "extra low" kit (at least that's what the previous owner said). They were blue if that matters.

SO... I ended up getting a NEW Eibach kit as I got it cheap and I liked Eibach in the past. I wanted it to be raised up a bit, but lower than stock. After installing the springs (I'm 90% certain they're in there correctly, no extra spacers, in "the groove", looks all correct front and back), the front looks WAY to high.

The back looks good to me, the front seems to look higher than stock. I hate it. I'm about to put the old springs back on but, wanted to know if this is normal and if they'll "settle in" after a while.

Car drives like brand new, doesn't float around like it did on the "older" springs. Handles great, just looks strange.

Any suggestions / ideas?

Thanks in advance.

NOTE: I know I'm missing the front trim pieces, so that gap would be less with them on, but still that looks high to me! Am I wrong?

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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 07-01-2016, 10:56 AM
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I have the Eibach Pro kit with lots of years on them and the car still sits very nice. The Rear tire looks about right, but something is definitely "off" with the front as that's way too high.

Did you do the install or someone else? The reason I ask is, are you sure that they are up in the Frame Pockets correctly and "clocked" in the lower control arm like they should?? For the front to be sitting that high, either you got the wrong springs OR they are not seated in the pockets correctly. FWIW - My Eibach Springs looked like this a few years back.


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Seems this is the second instance in recent times of issues with Eibach springs sitting too high in front. Did they recently make some changes?

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Thanks guys...

I'm pretty sure they were put in correctly. I did have a local shop do it because I'm lazy, but they let me "help" (watch) at times, and everything looked good, I checked to ensure they were in.

I'll take it back to have them look at it. I've also contacted Eibach and asked them what the deal was. They got back to me and said they're looking into it.

I went out and measured from the center of the rim to the lip of the fender:

Front: 16" (Keep in mind, no molding, so... half inch? 1 inch? Let's say 15")
Rear: 13"

So... add another 13" to get to ground...
Front: 29" (like other post)
Rear: 26"

The frame is level all the way across on the bottom, meaning it doesn't seem to be raked back (front higher)...

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same

Same issue with me. I've had the Eibach springs on my car for about 5 years. and the front was and still is considerably higher than where the rear sat. The rear actually sagged even more and I put in Moog 5415 rear springs to actually bring the rear up to match the front better. If i remember correctly, the Moog 5415 is just under stock ride height for the rear of the Imp.


But I've never liked the Eibach set I put in. the front was high or the back was too low. I verified proper placement. proper fit in the upper socket area, all that. the car simply isnt balanced (fender to tire) between the front and rear.

The set I got 5 or 6 years ago was not progressive. looking at their picture now and advertising they are progressive. wonder if they figured something out and changed design? I assume yours were progressive since they were new? i guess they didnt fix anything.

Some guys I've read have liked them a lot. and others I've seen have our issue.

Just posting to bring up that this isn't new. My front has been high for 5 years.

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Just an update... they acknowledge that the height in the front is far too high by inches. Eibach wants me to confirm the part numbers on the front springs to ensure they are the correct springs. I did crawl under and try to find the numbers they said would be there, and I can't see them (if they were there at all, I don't remember them being there). IF they are the wrong springs, they will send me the correct ones. If they are the "correct" springs... not sure what they will do.

As I said, the car drives fine. Very nice actually, smooth. I just do NOT like the look of it. I might swap the other ones back and maybe try to get my money back from Eibach if they can't fix the situation (yeah, good luck!)
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Yeah, that is sitting way too high and either wrong spring or something is not seated correctly. I think I may have a picj of the Spring Part number at home, I'll post it up for you if I find it. These Spring have many years on them, but this is how they sit today.....



Assuming you have an Impala, this is a 95 Caprice but don't think it matters as the cars are basically the same as an Impala with same Frame and Suspension Pieces.
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Just an update... they acknowledge that the height in the front is far too high by inches. Eibach wants me to confirm the part numbers on the front springs to ensure they are the correct springs. I did crawl under and try to find the numbers they said would be there, and I can't see them (if they were there at all, I don't remember them being there). IF they are the wrong springs, they will send me the correct ones. If they are the "correct" springs... not sure what they will do.

As I said, the car drives fine. Very nice actually, smooth. I just do NOT like the look of it. I might swap the other ones back and maybe try to get my money back from Eibach if they can't fix the situation (yeah, good luck!)
If you need P/Ns for the Eibach springs, I can get them to you tonight after I get home, I have yet to install my front springs, as I'm waiting for the shop to finish pressing bushings & ball joints into my powder coated arms.

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If you need P/Ns for the Eibach springs, I can get them to you tonight after I get home, I have yet to install my front springs, as I'm waiting for the shop to finish pressing bushings & ball joints into my powder coated arms.
That would be awesome... we can at least compare the part numbers (if I can find them on the front springs).

Thanks!

ALSO... pictures of the powder coated suspension will be required when you're done!

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That would be awesome... we can at least compare the part numbers (if I can find them on the front springs).
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ALSO... pictures of the powder coated suspension will be required when you're done!
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