Rare suspension: HO/HA group buy sway bars
HO/HA group buy sway bars
If I can arrange for 8 more people ...1 3/8" solid front bar, 1 1/2" solid rear bar, mounting hardware for the front includes poly bushings and end links. The 1 3/8" solid is 40% stiffer than the larger, hollow, longer 1 7/16" Hotchkis front sway bar. The rear of course is crazy stiffer than any other rear bar. The Limo is neutral (at 8000 lbs.) but the sedan hot set up for these bars is FE1 springs (really), or for sky high great handling (See Porsche SUV's) any 9C1 or trailer tow springs. Bruce at Malibu Performance has sold his last in stock set but will produce a new run of 20 sets once he has a group purchase. Every limo owner I know back in the states (I'm in Switzerland) wants a set. Like myself these are people who use their 94-96 FWB Limo to haul their dogs around. My daughter Lisbeth about 4 years ago drove my limo around Virginia International Raceway as fast as the average time for a stock Impala SS. (Horsepower, monster brakes and unreal handling is the magic on 15X8.5's and 275/60-15 Firehawks!) Details on my 96 FWB Limo I posted a few days ago on the forum announcement. Easily the rarest limo in Zurich, SW. right now. So I need 8 more to sign up. He's trying to keep the price per set as close to $321.00 as new production allows. I'll know the exact price by next week. I'll respond to any technical questions asap.He's in Malibu so I'm 9 time zones away so delays will happen. Who's in?
PS (expanding on a PM) A long time ago Glenn @ Quickor Suspension made a 1 3/8" solid rear bar specifically made to balance the HO/HA 1 3/8" solid front bar. It was a lot softer than the 1 1/2" solid rear bar because it was thinner and longer (bent like a FE3 rear bar) and was really the largest rear bar for sedans for optimal handling, especially with SS or 9C1 springs or any stiffer ones. Various current 1 3/8" HOLLOW rear bars are now made which of course is even softer than the solid and easier to find a matching front bar. Counter intuitive as it may seem, the 1 1/2" rear bar only really works best with FE1 springs but a lot of folks really like using it with other stiffer set ups because it drastically reduces body roll and inclines the car to oversteer. Not optimal handling but fun it's own way especially if you like to easily break the rear loose in oversteer, GM has always avoided neutral or oversteering suspensions for corporate liability reasons. Funny coincidence department :FE1, 9C1, V92 FE3 OEM suspensions AND aftermarket ones from Hotchkis, Hellwig and many others all kept the delta GM mandated of slightly larger front bars than rear. At least in sway bars that inclined the suspension to understeer. On a base Caprice with no rear bar, just using the 1 1/16" front bar and with adding a 1 1/16" rear (from the FE3) will remove the bar induced part of the understeer and make the car more neutral. An OEM SS with a 1 3/16" front bar and adding an aftermarket ~1 1/4" rear bar does the same. Ironic that the aftermarket sway bar sets all preserve the 1/8" delta GM had and so even though they increased roll resistance, they kept the understeer. Only BMR broke the tradition with 1 1/4" fronts paired with the 1 1/2" rear, but they jumped the shark with a 1/4" delta so they took out the understeer and went way into oversteer. Combined with stiffer bushing control arms (required in the rear) and most guys stiffer springs,shocks, tires! Just too much oversteer. A neutral set up really is better for everything.
Last edited by scot; 08-13-2016 at 06:55 AM.