Toe and go, sigh - Chevy Impala SS Forum
 1Likes
  • 1 Post By 96 Black
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-30-2019, 04:30 PM Thread Starter
MWP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spartanburg SC
Posts: 176
 
Toe and go, sigh

So, the ONE time I didn't get the alignment print-out (from a shop that had previously been attentive to detail: tweaking shims, steering wheel position, beautiful balancing, etc. to get things just right) is the time they stopped caring. I took it in after putting in new control arms/balljoints, and all they did was set the toe. A couple of long road trips did this to the right front tire, and I only noticed when I rotated it to the back this past week.


Not sure of karma, but I do feel a bit of justice knowing they went out of business recently.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20190523_1710016.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	458.3 KB
ID:	182880  

MWP is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-31-2019, 07:28 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 7,641
 
A graphic illustration of the importance to perform consistent, frequent, periodic pilot walk-around inspections prior to 'flight'. Whatever else is going on you can sure count your good fortune that didn't fail altogether. At speed. On a curve. With passengers.
gbhs72 likes this.

\'96SS SOB: SSRI, Herter Tune, Tri-Y II, , 3000 Edge, F/HO bars, METCO extendeds with CV MMC, Bilsteins, currently Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta (315/35 rear). Finally, wait for it... LT-4 knock module!
\'96FWB BUW-Butt Ugly White: PCMPerformance tune, HDFA w/ swissed filter, 1/2 SLP s.s. catback with H- and Flow Super 50s, oem opti rebuilt 3 times, SS Bars, METCO LCA, Airlift 1000, Monroe SS, PowerTrax No-Slip, CTS wheels with +1 rubber. Finally, yes again... LT-4 knock module!
96 Black is online now  
post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-31-2019, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
MWP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spartanburg SC
Posts: 176
 
96 Black--don't know if I responded when you made the switch--your CTS wheels look great!



I hear ya on checking. Somehow I missed this one tire until it was very obvious. (note to self--do pressure checks outside, not the dark garage). The other three are okay (half-tread), which is nearing my limit (I don't like running them down near the warning bar) and they're getting old, so now I get to cough up for 4 tires sooner than expected and another alignment.



Oh, well, I can be glad I talked my girlfriend out of buying a used German SUV-crossover thing. I checked and decent tires for it are close to $1000 a set. The Hankook whitewalls that go on my Fleetwood's little 15-inch rims don't do very crisp turns, but they cost a lot less. I don't enjoy the tires (sidewalls are soooo mushy, even at 38-40 pounds), but it's hard to find whitewalls, and unless I change to larger rims the sidewall appearance really benefits from the white.



Semi off-topic: I just got a bill for a recent brief walk-in emergency room visit. Going to the ER was the wise choice, but it was an uncomplicated visit and I was out after a couple of hours. The bill is roughly the same as five sets of tires for my car. Maybe I shouldn't complain about having to get tires.
MWP is offline  
 
post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-31-2019, 04:52 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 7,641
 
Yo Mr. -P,
After 16 years running SS wheels with FW-correct 255-55, I had new requirements for this FWB based on retaining ~30% of the oem FE1 floaty feel v. more flattened setup the old car had. Going from 28" to 29 filled the wells better, going 18" shortened the sidewall for a little better handling as you note, and 14-spoke got back to "it was built that way". Satisfied all around with the compromise for a touring look and feel, thanks.

To get an alignment I can trust for several years at a time I use an old "alignment only" shop in town. You'll spend over an hour in the waiting room, and it's no-air, Kiwanis bubblegum or nothing to eat, and the only mags are 'Alignment Monthly'. I didn't see a digital anything in the whole place.

GWS any place with $2M machines and techs allotted 10 minutes per car, including the 5-minute on-board tutorial. lol

On walk-in med stuff it seems all the hospital chains have an urgent care storefront on every corner nowadays. They do seem to be cheaper than a full-blown hosp ER, but then again EVERYTHING is tilted to 'insurance model' pricing.

Just yesterday (hunting rears for my 8N) I read selection is dying out for 15" and under, which could actually end up causing a premium on smaller sizes now. Git some rims that at least fill the cavernous FW wells better eh. You'll certainly notice better handling even if staying oem dia. tires.

\'96SS SOB: SSRI, Herter Tune, Tri-Y II, , 3000 Edge, F/HO bars, METCO extendeds with CV MMC, Bilsteins, currently Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta (315/35 rear). Finally, wait for it... LT-4 knock module!
\'96FWB BUW-Butt Ugly White: PCMPerformance tune, HDFA w/ swissed filter, 1/2 SLP s.s. catback with H- and Flow Super 50s, oem opti rebuilt 3 times, SS Bars, METCO LCA, Airlift 1000, Monroe SS, PowerTrax No-Slip, CTS wheels with +1 rubber. Finally, yes again... LT-4 knock module!

Last edited by 96 Black; 06-01-2019 at 07:50 AM.
96 Black is online now  
post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-04-2019, 05:06 PM Thread Starter
MWP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spartanburg SC
Posts: 176
 
I've leaned toward SS wheels since I bought this last set of 15" tires, but your CTS solution does indeed fit the "built that way" image much better. Tthis car is my DD, though, and needs to be highway worthy asap, so the change will have to wait until the next go-round, esp. since I'll need to send off the spare ECM whenever I figure out the new tire diameter. That also brings up rebuilding the pumpkin with something more interesting than the 2.93 gears... Ah, well, thinking about things is have the fun.
Mark
MWP is offline  
post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-04-2019, 06:04 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 7,641
 
Good to hear back. On the gears, my take is unless you're patterning the turboed murdered black hearse on here (mite dam fine piece 'o work there), then I find 2.93 lets it get scooting fine off the line, even liting them up, - as long as you add a locker for posi at the same time as keeping ABS while beating down that embarrassing traction control. I'll spend money instead on a tune (already did) along with a little higher torque conv.


Stock SS wheels can't be beat for instant gratification. Going anything CTS or most other modern style will include high offset, and requiring spacer/adapters.= $$$. While the cost of those wheels are more sure, they're also in line when you consider any old SS wheels probably need refinishing = same money total. I can forward the spacer specs and source when you're ready for the 'next go-round'. The guy who got my gray car put 265 something on the SS wheels to fill the wells better, so you might look into that for current rendition. But then there's that tune. Which you need anyway. Happy hunting.


Funny story: Right after getting the paint done and SS wheels on I ran into our company's warehouse to load up stuff for my project. He was a good old sort and probably been working there since a kid. He's the type who would have known every Cadillac made for 50 years, and the first dam thing he said when I pulled in was, "Those wheels ain't right for that car." I just said, "yep, I agree with you completely. But I ain't got the money for spacers and widening out 2000 DTS turbines." He at least gave an approving "Hmm" after that.

\'96SS SOB: SSRI, Herter Tune, Tri-Y II, , 3000 Edge, F/HO bars, METCO extendeds with CV MMC, Bilsteins, currently Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta (315/35 rear). Finally, wait for it... LT-4 knock module!
\'96FWB BUW-Butt Ugly White: PCMPerformance tune, HDFA w/ swissed filter, 1/2 SLP s.s. catback with H- and Flow Super 50s, oem opti rebuilt 3 times, SS Bars, METCO LCA, Airlift 1000, Monroe SS, PowerTrax No-Slip, CTS wheels with +1 rubber. Finally, yes again... LT-4 knock module!
96 Black is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Chevy Impala SS Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome