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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 11:12 AM
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And preferably a new frame, I don't really want anything else. Just last winter my upper spring perch on the driver's side cracked, I'm just about positive it was due to a seized or barely moving shock. When I was changing the shocks after I got the car the passenger side one was fine but on the driver's side the bolt holes in the spring perch were all chewed up and the perch was actually bent to the point where I couldn't get a wrench on the top of the bolt. So my dumbass didn't really think anything of it and took it to a shop and paid them to take the shock out and put the new one in. When they were done the mechanic came out and showed me the old shock and how he could barely move it at all by putting one end on the floor and pushing down on it as hard as he could. I tried it and the same thing happened. Needless to say not long after the spring perch cracked, and I had it fixed with a supposedly "grafted in" spring perch. Everything has been good until today I was coming home from work and hit a pretty bad pothole and heard a terrible sound. I knew right there what it was. I took it back to the shop and got the bad news. It broke again of course. [img]graemlins/4.gif[/img] I've done some searching on frame swaps and it seems like quite a job. Anyone else ever done this? Is it even worth it?

An LT1 Monte, Malibu, or S10 is starting to sound pretty good right about now though...
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 04:36 PM
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i would find a respectable welder first..it sounds to me that you had a everyday shop weld it in..go to someone who can weld in my opinion
post #3 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 04:39 PM
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I agree on trying again with someone really skilled with welding. Replacing a frame on a 9C1 is really just not worth it at all unless the car is ridiculously clean (ie wasn't actually a cop car for very long at all).
 
post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 05:51 PM
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i would find a respectable welder first..it sounds to me that you had a everyday shop weld it in..go to someone who can weld in my opinion
EXACTLY what I thought! I learned in aircraft maintenance school that a proper weld is just as strong as the metal it is welding. Plain and simple, if its done right, it's for good. Dipsh1t at the shop didn't seem able enough to comprehend this so I didn't even bother arguing. Just another prick who sees a kid as a sucker. The more I think about this the more it infuriates me. $750 and nothing they can do? I ****ing missed 4 school loan payments to pay these incompetent lackeys to do a job that I expected to be done right and the ********** wanted to try to sell me a car he had in the shop! A 2001 impala at that!!! That right there showed me how much of a moron he thought I was! I learned at a young age you don't buy a car from a shop. Why? BECAUSE THE REPAIRS WERE SO EXPENSIVE THE OWNER SAID **** IT!!! YOU CAN HAVE IT!!!
post #5 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 08:23 PM
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They charged you $750 to "graft" that back in??? Damn!! that's a bunch of BS. That shouldnt be an overly difficult repair for a good welder/fabricator to do and it should not cost anywhere near that.
post #6 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 08:32 PM
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I did a frame swap on my SS....it's not a hard task...but really labor intensive and time consuming.....keep in mind to do a frame swap means, pulling the drive train, suspension, control arms, ect, ect to tranfer to the new frame.....

I would agree with these guys, find a new welder...sounds like the graphted peice wasn't welded to well from the word go. I would try to get a refund.....thats BS you had to pay TOP dollar to get the job done half a$$ed! Find someone with lots of welding expirence, and weld a new piece in there. Good Luck man.
post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 08:50 PM
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Your story makes my blood boil. I hate people that are supposedly in skilled professions, that really should be scaling fish. [img]graemlins/3.gif[/img]
About 20 years ago I had a similar senario with a '77 Town Car. But I was lucky enough, to have brought it to an established fabricator/welder.
Charged me $250, which at the time, I thought was a rip. Never had any more trouble with it.

In your case, I would try taking this fish scaler to Small Claims Court. I hope you've got receipt or canceled checks.

Ask around for a competent faber/welder in your area, maybe botch job can be salvaged? Tell them you're paying your way through school, was humped on last job, and belong to a car club[potential recommendations]. Maybe they'll moderate on $$$?
Sorry about that story. Good luck.
post #8 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-09-2004, 09:17 PM
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Find yourself a certified welder in your area to repair your frame. THEN...contact your better business bureau, chamber of commerce, small claims court, whatever. Fry their ass. Hopefully you still have documentation to assist you in resolving this. Good luck! D.
post #9 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-10-2004, 12:29 AM
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chevy4life,
If you can locate the same piece from an accessible car [wrecked car] maybe you could just splice it onto your car with fasteners [not welds] like as in sandwhich the material together... The upper spring & shock area is hard to see, reach & work... I think it might challenge the best workers & welders..?
Respectfully & good luck--George
post #10 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-10-2004, 05:13 AM
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A side note to all of this -- I have heard of people suing the city when their car suffers damage due to poorly maintained roads. It's always an option to help you cover the repair cost.
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