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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-17-2003, 05:37 PM
kustomscaraudio
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hey all,
i'm having major steering problems with my 94' 9c1. this car drives like it's on ice. the steering never has a "rest" feeling to it, what i mean is, when driving in a straight line the wheel always feels like there is pressure on it. the wheel has a bit pf play, but nothing to drastic. it just never feels like other impala's or caprices i've driven. almost like there is no power steering at all. kinda drives like my dad's 54 studebaker. it never feels like it's centered. ruts in the road pull and push this thing all over.

the only suspension mod done is a set of intrax springs on the front with 95 roadmaster springs on the rear.(the rear intrax's were too low for me)
the front sets a bit low but also sets uneven. the left tire tucks the right sets flush. measurement from ground to fender is 26.5" on the drivers side and 27.25" on passenger side. measurement from the center of the tire on front is 62 15/16ths and rear of tire is 62 14/16ths.

i've had it aligned 3 different times with no improvements. the only thing that is not within spec is the camber. they all say all the shims are out and that it is as good as they can get it.
-1.1 degree is it's measurement. the caster and all the other measurements are within spec.
i was told the steering box was bad, so i replaced it with a new gm box,... no difference. still drives the same. all the ball joints and tie rods are good. haven't changed the idler arm (sp?)
what do you guys think could be wrong? bad springs, too low,car is a p.o.s.? i'm starting to really hate this car. i'm not opposed to raising it back up or anything, i only wanted to bring it down to stock impala height anyway, but i have seen other b-bodys lower than this one.

any suggestions on what i should do, or mabye shops in the dfw area i should take it to? i'm ready to toss a match into this thing!!!please help me out .
sorry for the long post.
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-18-2003, 02:16 AM
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You probably won't believe this, but find an alignment place that will give you a readout sheet showing what the readings were before they tweaked it and after they tweaked it. I had my ride aligned at one of the local Chevy dealers that say they specialize in comercial vehicles. No improvement. All over the road. Took it to Belle Tire (a big chain here) and they gave it a full check with readings, but only charged me $35 because they only had to adjust the tow-in. Night & day. Handles like a new car. You might just need a tow-in adjustment, but you have to find a place that will DO IT & not screw you. Have fun. - Jim
post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-18-2003, 03:10 PM
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From your Front Spring Height description, sounds like an unmatched pair of springs were installed on your car[or one spring is not seated in spring pocket correctly]. Don't know for certain, but would imagine this would effect tracking? You need to find the best Wheel Alignment tech in your area! Keep asking Gearheads for the right man.
 
post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-18-2003, 08:24 PM
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i checked the springs to make sure they were seated properly, and both are in their pockets. i have always suspected the springs though.
i bought them from summit, but i'm not sure how much of a drop they really are. 1.5-2.25?
i had 9c1 factory springs on it before so it seemed to have dropped quite a bit. is it possible that the front end is so low that it is not able to be aligned? it really doesn't seem that low, but the tires sure do look weird from the front. they lean in at the top, and seem to point outward, but the measurements only show a 16th" difference, from the center line of the tires front and back.
the new steering box has given it a better feel, but on bumps and uneven lanes, the car feels as though it is hydroplaning.
mabye i should hunt down a set of factory ss springs, or would i be able to get this thing aligned with a set of hotchkis 1.3's? the prices seems right, but i don't wanna shell out more dough for something that won't fix my problems.
anybody else got any ideas?
post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-18-2003, 09:10 PM
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Also may be something as simple as a bad Tire. At a Tire Shop take them off & spin each one, & look for bent rim/distorted O.D.(defective steel belt). If this is negative, you need to find that Wheel Alignment Guru!
post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-18-2003, 09:17 PM
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larry,
it did this with the factory pv41's and then with some old 245/50/17's and still with the new 255/50/17 kdws's. i keep thinking it's the dang springs, mabye i'll look for a set of factory ss's.
thanks for your input,though.
matt
post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-24-2003, 01:28 PM
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Replace that Idler arm with the Moog one.
That should help some.
post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-24-2003, 02:05 PM
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Doubt IA will resolve this type of handling issue, but doesn't hurt to have the Moog K6187T IA.
post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-28-2003, 12:11 AM
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have you tried adjusting the steering box? I did a few days ago because i had the same problems and it solved the problem.
post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-29-2003, 02:03 PM
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I have this exact same problem. Grooves in the road pull me around. My springs are stock I think but my car also slightly leans to the drivers side. I've just been thinking my drivers side springs were sagging but I don't know that much about suspension.
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