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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-23-2004, 06:42 PM
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Is it possible to have comfort and performance or are they a trade off?
I plan on rebuilding my suspension this winter and I like the smooth ride. To get a smooth ride do you have to sacrifice handling? Is it a give and take or can I compromise and have both?

Here is my plan.
Replace body bushings
Cut 3/4 coil front 9c1 springs, rear impala springs with air bags
F Body front sway bar, stock rear sway bar, replacement bushings and endlinks
Monroe severe shocks
BMR LCA
Complete front end rebuild

My goals are a smooth ride, lower the car to the Impala height, and if possible increase my handling and stability. By replacing my components am I sacrificing comfort for better handling? I hate the bone jarring pot hole rides of firm suspensions.

Do springs and shocks primarily determine the 'smoothness' of a ride?
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-23-2004, 07:53 PM
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An adjustable shock like the QA1s can offer the best of both worlds.
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-23-2004, 08:40 PM
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Ok Thanks. I will search and find more information about them. Off the top of my head I remember them being pretty pricey compared to the Monroe's I am interested in.


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After a quick search I decided against the QA1's. They are out of my price range and the issue's of leaking in cold weather has me questioning the reliability as a daily driver in Ohio.

Another point. Would I be correct in stating a soft suspension allows a car to hook at the drag strip while a firm suspension allows a car to handle. This may be overly simplified but I neither drag race nor autocross my daily driver.
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-23-2004, 11:13 PM
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Lawdog, I just replaced the p.o.s. sensatracs on my car with the monroe ss's and that alone helped A LOT with both the ride smoothness and the handling. My car has, as far as I can tell, stock 9C1 springs all around. Only problem is that these shocks seemed to intensify all the rattles and clunks in the worn-ass suspension, so I'd have to say you have a good plan!
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-25-2004, 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by chevy4life:
Only problem is that these shocks seemed to intensify all the rattles and clunks in the worn-ass suspension, so I'd have to say you have a good plan!
Can you elaborate more. Is the ride firmer or more bone jarring? Is the ride stiffer or rougher over rough roads?
Thanks chevy4life.
Brett
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-25-2004, 09:12 PM
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i have ss springs with the new monroe ss shocks. i had 9c1 with sensocraps. Big diff. No more bounce. Smooth in the day siffer at night. I am just going to do sways and be done with suspension. for now...
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2004, 01:50 AM
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by chevy4life:
Only problem is that these shocks seemed to intensify all the rattles and clunks in the worn-ass suspension, so I'd have to say you have a good plan!
Can you elaborate more. Is the ride firmer or more bone jarring? Is the ride stiffer or rougher over rough roads?
Thanks chevy4life.
Brett
</font>[/QUOTE]I think it was more a matter of having the radio turned down to listen for problems now that its been a week, the ride is definatly NOT bone-jarring (like it was with sensacraps), and over rough roads it isn't exactly Caddy-like but it is comfortable. I'm not too good at describing the physics of shocks, so I'll just say trust me! They made a big difference, I don't see how anyone could regret these shocks. Much better overall ride quality.
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2004, 11:15 AM
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Thanks for the input. Thats exactly what I was looking for.
Brett
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-26-2004, 03:17 PM
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I found the soft Bilsteins sort of springy/boingy with SS springs. I got my front end kit from PST - $159 for everything w/ free shipping. Moog problem solver idler arm is a must-have. Tires also make a huge difference.
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-27-2004, 07:54 AM
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I dunno if you've already gotten all the info you're looking for but as many others have I also replaced some crappy (though not totally blown) Senstracs with fresh Severe Service shocks all around. A week later I added ZQ8's plus the car came with air bags in the rear.

After riding in: my Caprice with crappy shocks, with good shocks, with good shocks and ZQ8's, and in a variety of imports with stiff suspension I would say with the stock springs and tires the Caprice still has sedan-like ride quality. The damping is better with the new shocks so when you hit a bump or a series of bumps the car doesn't bounce all over the road.

One thing to consider is that with the cut springs and the bigger front sway bar you're gonna get a lot of understeer. Doesn't really mean a whole lot if you're not racing though.
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