After just spending $302.00 for my third set of front tires in 32k miles I am ready to ditch my front springs. It seems that I can't find anyone that knows how to do an alingment on a lowered car. I would also like a little smoother ride.
Anyway here are my questions:
1. Will I still have the same 2" drop as my current springs or will I sit a little higher?
2. I have seen that AIM might be an OK product to buy at the present time. Let me know if you have them.
3. Where is the cheapest place on the net to get a set of spindles (either AIM or Bell Tech).
I have the AIM drop spindles on my wagon and I love them. I'm running the stock wagon springs in front and the ST wagon springs in back.
It's LOW. I scrape on a lot of stuff. However, I think if I got some good shocks and some stiffer stock, or near stock height springs the wagon would be perfect.
The spindles went on with really no problems (we didnt have to modify anything) and I was able to get it aligned. Though for a 100% perfect alignment the offset cross shafts would be nice (Moog problem solvers). I'll stuff those in when I seriously go through the front end. You may want to save some headache and get them when you get the spindles.
Anyway, I'll try to get some pictures up (I dont have any taken since the spindle swap.)
I have spindles and new drop springs on the front and rear of my wagon. I am low low low and I love it. Keep your car low but wow three sets of tires I can only imagine your frustration.
What problems are you encountering in getting it aligned? Can they not get the heads on? Is your camber screwed or your toe?
Anyways they can align it and get your toe. The camber will still be off without a camber kit (bushing). Price is about 40 bucks per bushing of course labor is high because installing a part like that is intensive.
There was only one shop in the Cincinnati (a performance shop) area that could align mine because the other shops could not get the heads on the rear wheels of my car.
Which brings up a question from me and you guys let me know, couldn't you jack up the rear body of the car to make the wheel accessible from under the fender cover? This would allow the head to get on the rim and therefore just about any shop could align it.
Just wondering I took my car to many many stores ran it up on the ramp with boards to then have these guys tell me the heads can't go on. I didn't want to seem like a know it all dumb blonde and say jack up the rear so I just left. Me and my dad lift the front of my stratus to get a floor jack in place, it just seems you could do the same with the wagon.
Okay anyways I would just get the bushings and then find a performance shop have them shim it out and your set! Oh and replace those stock shocks on the front with an aftermarket gas type shock, very inexpensive about 50 to 70 bucks and then you won't wear everything else out and the car will ride much better without affecting the stance. My shocks right now have no room to travel as my car is so low and my tires are so large.
Sorry for rambling I hope I can out to something constructive if not whatever I tried [img]smile.gif[/img]
I don't know about wagons, but if the front suspension is identical to the impala (and I assume it is) the drop spindles are going to give you about the same drop as in your sig. You will be scraping tire, however, on the larger bumps, at least with the stock shocks.
Yeah it's hard to find a place that can align a lowered car with rear fender skirts. I took my car to two different places that had the old style alignment pits. I still got taken for $70 from both places. The first time I waited about 7k miles after I lowered it to get an alignment (so they wore out early due to neg. camber). They second set would have been fine, but I had a bad pull to the right. So the guy that aligned it put some shims on my upper left A-arm (causing negative camber on my left tire. My right was still good for another 5-7k miles, but inside of my left tire was bald after 14k miles. When I get my next alignment I'll put my stock rear springs in temporarily so I can take it anywhere.
For the alignment part: The new machines require that your car roll forward and backwards for like one full tire rotation (that's why it's hard to get our lowered cars aligned). The rear heads will get knocked off.
I got the AIM spindles on my wagon and have not had any problems.
I used to work there and those donít have any problems
I did get AIM & BELL TECH for the wagon and compared those to each other
They were exactly the same.
(try the search this topic was covered)
hope this helps
Yeah I read your post and all others. There was more negative post about AIM than positive.Also I wanted info on how they compaired to my sprint springs heighth wise. I'll take pictures when I do it for reference. Just wanted to make sure they were still ok to buy. I ordered them yesterday and hope they get here before next weekend. The price is great @ $139, but the shipping was $35.
Originally posted by Klez: Yeah I read your post and all others. There was more negative post about AIM than positive.Also I wanted info on how they compaired to my sprint springs heighth wise. I'll take pictures when I do it for reference. Just wanted to make sure they were still ok to buy. I ordered them yesterday and hope they get here before next weekend. The price is great @ $139, but the shipping was $35.
Yea, I was a little shocked when I saw the shipping price. Then I picked up the box and went "oh."
klez: I have the AIM spindles and I am happy with them although they did have horrible grinding done on them. I have a small problem because my wheels are 8" wide w/zero offset. I rub tires on any medium bump. I am contemplating putting in 1/2" coil spring shims.
As far as alignments go, Captain Crankshaft is right on the money about the problem solver offset crossshafts. They are not very expensive, about $35 for the kit. Here is a link with front end piece prices and who to order from. I searched the net quite a bit when I found this guy. moog prices About halfway down the page you'll see the price list that I posted.
I had my alignment done by a shop in Lake City which is about an hour from Jax. It is Leonards frame shop at 386-752-6360. They do an old style pit alignment and had no problems with my wagon. It has been over a year for me and it still tracks true. It was @$60 as I recall, but don't hold me to that. dan