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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-01-2002, 02:01 AM
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Well, with fast_ss1's help I threw mine in today.

Still need to AutoX on them to be sure, but so far I'm impressed! On "6", they are about as stiff as the Koni shocks were on "full firm" in front and "4/5 firm" in back (with 30K miles). Since I like that amount of stiffness on the street, I'll leave them there.

On "12", they are REAL freaking stiff . It's not quite like putting steel bars in place of the shocks, but it feels a bit like it

Didn't try the "soft" settings yet....

I definitely like the adjustability of them (like the Konis) and how EASY it is to adjust them (very UNlike the Konis!). Can adjust all 4 shocks in about 3 minutes!

I have an AutoX next Sunday at Candlestick....a VERY bumpy asphalt lot (gee, build a parking lot that is on LANDFILL in an earthquake prone area.....yep, it's gonna settle a bit [img]smile.gif[/img]). Put it this way : course designers on that lot have to carefully plan things to avoid getting cars AIRBORN! For that lot, I'll probably try 7-8 or so on the shocks and see what happens. On smoother lots, I'm guessing that even stiffer will work better.
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-01-2002, 04:56 AM
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Argh! Your really making me want to get a set of these shocks (don't really need em, but sure do want em). Can't wait to hear how ya like em for auto X'in, sounds like they are gunna work great!
post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-01-2002, 06:35 AM
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Way to go Ed, you're gonna love them. If you recall (or rather in case you don't) I autocrossed at Arlington with mine set at 10 in front and 8 in back. In the rain a couple of weekends ago I went with 8 all around. Actually I forgot to set my shocks for the first run (I run them at 5 all around on the street) but I still did pretty well. Shaved a full two seconds off my time when I set the shocks right and got a little more aggressive. [img]1.gif[/img]

We'll have to compare other notes in Austin. Are you going to have the chance to autocross your car before then?
 
post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-01-2002, 07:47 AM
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hey Ed,

With the front HALs set on 8, no sway bar, and 275/40-17s at 32psi, my car handles as well as it did totally stock.

In fact yesterday I had to do a VERY QUICK countersteer maneuver to avoid a car pulling out, and I was extremely surprised at how well she reacted.

Gotta love those HALs

PS: on the softest setting, 0, you can push the front end down with no problems! Just need to takes curves a bit slowly [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #5 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-01-2002, 07:51 AM
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This is great news since my Hal's should be at my front door very soon. I can't wait!!!!

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post #6 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-01-2002, 12:06 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>We'll have to compare other notes in Austin. Are you going to have the chance to autocross your car before then?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, if things go right I'll be AutoXing the SS this Sunday (April 7th) at Candlestick. For the April 14th event, not sure if I'll end up in the SS or WRX.

If you start doing AutoX more Vader, you need to go grab a "junk" set of stock rims and throw some Kumhos (or the like) on them. You'll be shocked at the difference....

SSMOKEM : with 750 lb/in front springs, it wouldn't be easy to push down on them with NO shocks . However, it would sure make it a lot less damped (bouncy). Next time I get to the dragstrip, I'll have to dial down the front shocks to 2 or 3 and see if I can at least make SOME weight transfer happen....
post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-02-2002, 05:53 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>If you start doing AutoX more Vader, you need to go grab a "junk" set of stock rims and throw some Kumhos (or the like) on them. You'll be shocked at the difference....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's a full set of spare rimSS in my shop that I've been debating what to do with. I may get them powdercoated (not black [img]6.gif[/img] ) and get some racing tires. My biggest problem, besides the $$$, is that I have no way to transport them to events except the Impala. Even if I take out the spare I don't know if all four would fit in the trunk, so some would have to go into the back seat. For local events (which there are few of) that's no big deal, but driving across the country with them I wouldn't have room for anything or anyone else.

What do you do with your racing tires for long trips Ed? I know that you brought them last year to Arlington and raced them on Tully's car. Did you bring them in his Impala? Other trips, tips, or tricks you'd care to share? [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-02-2002, 10:43 AM
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Glad to hear that those shocks work so well. I'd love to get a set on my car, since it's clear that I need some more suspension compliance to hook up at the strip, and changing settings on the Konis is a huge PITA (as was mentioned). They're now offically on the "wish" list
post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-02-2002, 10:53 AM
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Has anyone tried Carrera shocks? They offer a gas adjustable steel shock for about $112. retail ( adjus. w/ allen wrench on car, Can't be as easy as the Hals) Some round track racers I know use Carreras. They have a rep that travels to some of the SCCA races we go to so I may get some extra service from them in that respect. They are in Atlanta area so that's close for shipping or a 3 hour drive over. But, I've only heard good things about the Hals & they look real good. The cost difference is not that big of a deal, just looking for easier or extra service if needed. Since Ed the King runs Hals now, it's probably foolish not to follow his lead. I'm just trying to out solo the mustangs & stay in F-stock. Me thinks I should buy the race tires first, then the shocks later. What have you other solo'ers done or tried?! Good Luck Ed. Keep us posted
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post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-02-2002, 11:58 AM
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I think I've got the ones in the ShockWaves on my wagon set at 9. Nice and stiff. It'd be interesting to see how well it'd Autocross with some HAL's on the back.
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