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post #21 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-25-2013, 09:06 AM
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Bill -

Money sent.

Thanks for getting this kit together and all of your help.

Hubs, calipers, and pads are next.

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95 9C1:
12.19 @ 111, ESE 357, LE2 heads, LE 224/230
12.86 @ 105, Reman 355, Z28 heads, CC 502, CPT 3, Edge 3400, 4.10, PCM4Less
96 SS:
11.74 @ 117, ERE 383, LE2 heads, AI 234/242, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
12.28 @ 110, Golen 383, LE2 heads, CC 503, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
13.07 @ 101, Rebuilt LT1, LE2 heads, Crane 227, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
14.11 @ 95, Stock LT1, Edge 3000, 3.73, PCM4Less
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post #22 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-25-2013, 09:08 AM
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I know Bill has provided a thorough thread with direct links about his kit, but here are pixs of the KORE3 hubs that you need to order separately:



NAPA calipers:


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Your Wilwood links in the first post are broke Bill. FYI.
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post #24 of 41 (permalink) Old 11-25-2013, 12:17 PM
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Question studs/

Bill, I went with the M12 press in studs.

M12x1.5 is the standard size stud correct?

KORE3 will press the studs in correct?

Sorry, I guess I should have ask the guy at KORE3 when I ordered.

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95 9C1:
12.19 @ 111, ESE 357, LE2 heads, LE 224/230
12.86 @ 105, Reman 355, Z28 heads, CC 502, CPT 3, Edge 3400, 4.10, PCM4Less
96 SS:
11.74 @ 117, ERE 383, LE2 heads, AI 234/242, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
12.28 @ 110, Golen 383, LE2 heads, CC 503, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
13.07 @ 101, Rebuilt LT1, LE2 heads, Crane 227, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
14.11 @ 95, Stock LT1, Edge 3000, 3.73, PCM4Less
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....here are pixs of the KORE3 hubs that you need to order separately:

Understand that the final product is black anodized--this is a fairly old photo--screw-in 1/2" studs, and the hub snout configuration has been modified to add more clearance at the outer end to provide room for wheel center caps that snap into the wheel--several aftermarket wheels could not run caps with the older design hub. Tone rings are not included.

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Bill, I went with the M12 press in studs.

M12x1.5 is the standard size stud correct?

KORE3 will press the studs in correct?

Sorry, I guess I should have ask the guy at KORE3 when I ordered.
M12x1.5 is correct and the studs are already pressed in (default is ARP)

Mav, I hear you--the thread is so old that the mod & admin don't allow editing.

Here's a current Wilwood link, though it may not stay good for very long, as Wilwood seems to re-shuffle info on a regular basis:

http://wilwood.com/Calipers/CaliperL...0Dual%20Piston

correct for HD12: http://wilwood.com/Calipers/CaliperP...emno=120-10936

2-caliper kit with pads:
http://wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKi...Caliper%20Kits

correct for HD12: http://wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKi...emno=140-11290

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HD12 - Black Friday special pricing - 2013

Black Friday special, good from Nov 29th to Dec 6th, 2013

Standard - $472.50 (normally $525) - 10% discount
With cryo plain rotors - $510 (normally $575) - 11.3% discount
With cryo slotted rotors - $525 (normally $600) - 12.5% discount

Please contact me directly via PM or e-mail for full details!

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Bill, did you ever compare these hubs to Astro rotor solution "hubs".
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Over the years, as I was looking at how to accomplish what eventually became HD12, I did essentially what was to become the Astro setup. I never created parts to install, since I decided it wasn't a viable approach. Some time later, the KORE3 hub came into existence, and the final HD12 configuration was always based on that hub.

If I get what you're thinking or wondering, the answer is that HD12 is not compatible with cut-down stock rotors as hubs without some compromises that I am unwilling to make.

That said, I can't stop someone from using HD12 rotors and then coming up with their own hub adaptation. Enough time, material, and a good machinist can accomplish alot.....but I'm satisfied with the HD12 setup as I developed it--I do understand the cost issue, but, with brakes being a critical vehicle system, and the fact that I can't control what someone else does if the KORE3 hub isn't used, it leaves me exposed if I was to endorse an alternate hub package for HD12 that is home-grown, thus I would not be able to know if it will work without issues.

The main criteria includes having the ability to control the critical fit/clearance between the hub OD and hat ID, lateral position of the rotor in relation to knuckle and caliper, and to prevent the loss of hub register with the wheel--the HD12/KORE3 hub combination addresses all issues quite satisfactorily.

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Yep, you got what I was getting at and I get what you're saying. Just felt the door was open to the question as the KORE hub is priced out separately.
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Installed by Nab at EFI Performance in MD.

Look great and are heavy duty.

Bill thanks for a great product and a great purchasing experience.

HD12 rotors, KORE3 billet hubs, billet dust caps, Caddy HD calipers (NAPA reman), and Hawk HPS pads:




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95 9C1:
12.19 @ 111, ESE 357, LE2 heads, LE 224/230
12.86 @ 105, Reman 355, Z28 heads, CC 502, CPT 3, Edge 3400, 4.10, PCM4Less
96 SS:
11.74 @ 117, ERE 383, LE2 heads, AI 234/242, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
12.28 @ 110, Golen 383, LE2 heads, CC 503, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
13.07 @ 101, Rebuilt LT1, LE2 heads, Crane 227, CPT 3, Yank 3600, 3.73, PCM4Less
14.11 @ 95, Stock LT1, Edge 3000, 3.73, PCM4Less
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