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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 11-17-2003, 08:35 AM
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Our club, UNYISSO, is about ready to send in our application to ISSCA for a club charter. We have more than the 10 names required and are somewhat in a quandry about the officer positions that the application requires.

There are really two issues surrounding the officer positions that are a challenge to UNYISSO. First is that in nearly 7 years of association, UNYISSO has never had officers or the desire for a hierchial structure. We're just really about playing with our cars, and hanging out with our friends throughout the Northeast with the same interests. Second, the requirement that all officers are paid ISSCA members means that not all UNYISSO members would have equal access to those officer positions. UNYISSO collects no dues and tries to make it so that every member can have whatever club experience he or she wants to have. It's been the secret to our long term hapiness and success as an organization.

We don't have a formalized structure, but we do have a core bunch of members that attend events and do things together, and it is from these ranks that we draw our members for chartering. This is by no means an effort that is undertaken by the entire club, since the entire club actually spans a larger geographic area than just Upstate NY. We're a diverse group with no exact course set for our journey. That works for us, and has worked for us for a long time.

I guess where I'm headed with this is that I'm wondering if we can be a club that is chartered WITHOUT named officers? We can provide our 10 or more paid ISSCA members names and numbers for the application as well as provide an official mailing address and the names and signatures of three people who are willing to be the points of contact for the club for ISSCA matters, but not have these people carry the title of President, Vice President and Secretary/Treasurer. These people are willing to carry the same load for ISSCA and for UNYISSO as every other chartered club. We would just like to avoid the overhead of titles and club officers. This is far more in keeping with our character as an enthusiast organization and will in the long run hopefully help us to continue to be who we are and have been without introducing the strife that a structural change to our organization can bring with it.

I'm not sure who has that ability or authority to answer this question, but we are meeting on December 6th to complete our application and mail it in for processing. I hope that I made sense and brought up some valid points and that we can have this question answered one way or the other by that date. Regardless of the answer, we are expecting to complete and mail the application in. The toughest question facing us still has been the election of officers and if we can take another route to the same destination.

Thank you,

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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 11-17-2003, 12:06 PM
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Yes, just designate three of your "main guys/gals" who are active AND are ISSCA members as your Officers. And the titles do NOT have to be Pres, VP, and Sec/Treas if you don't want.

Region Of Doom is set up similarly in a "loose" fashion (i.e. no formal officers). While that has lead to some issues (not related to ISSCA at all), becoming ISSCA Chartered (a while ago) wasn't one of them.
post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old 11-17-2003, 12:29 PM
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Thanks for the reply Ed,

How far can we distance ourselves from the idea that these members are anything other than points of contact for ISSCA and ISSCA members to reach us? The by-laws don't specifically require officers of any type for a chartered club and I'm just curious to what extent the application might supercede the by laws on this topic?

Are club officers covered by the ISSCA liability insurance on a non sanctioned event? One concern would be that Officers would be targets for litigation in any event, whether ISSCA sanctioned or otherwise. I'm just doing my due diligence, and not trying to pick it apart. I think it's better to ask these questions now instead of after the fact.

post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 11-19-2003, 09:46 PM
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The club charter app is really meant to be an agreement between you and ISSCA that the folks on it are in fact going to be there and help continue to rally the club into maintaining membership in ISSCA. Its also meant to be a record of who in your club fills what position, and should reflect the correct hierarchy, BUT... we all know that some clubs are a little laid back. Gee... I think my local club is like that.

Get Dan to put the charter before the board. He will know how to handle it. Don't get overly excited about the 'full force of the law' with regards to your club officers. Just have them all agree that the position they sign in, is a position they'd agree they sort of fill, whether you elect them or appoint them or fall into them or whatever.

As for liabilty. The ISSCA liability policy covers ISSCA members of ISSCA Chartered Clubs. Not anyone else. This is in my opinion one of the top benefits of being a Chartered Club. You are absolutely right feeling comfortable with this part of your charter benefits. Its a HUGE one.

Hope this helps.

Director - Region 12
post #5 of 5 (permalink) Old 12-05-2003, 11:15 AM
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Ed and Gerry - Thanks for the reply.

We should be sending our Chartered Club application in the the next week once a few more Upstate New York Impala ss /9c1 owners get their membership ID and Magazine.

I want to thank Dan Leftwich our New York Regional ISSCA Rep for answering some questions I had and helping a member with his application.

I would also like to thank Dave Wilson who is one of our Northeast forum adminstrators with the International GM association for contacting you with our questions.

Looking forward to being part of the Big Family Nationally with our Chevrolets since UNYISSO has been around in Upstate New York since 97.

John Danek, Alex Ernst and Dean Fox started UNYISSO as our club founders.
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