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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-17-2007, 01:21 AM
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Well I'm glad I decided not to spend $1500+ to go to the show this year. I just heard that the road course event was a bust for two classes; race class being one of them. It seems there were so many breakdowns and no one thought to decrease the lap count by said breaking down classes, that the cars actually built to withstand the repeated laps only got one themselves. I can only imagine how I would have felt after driving 1800 miles, waiting all day and then only get 1 hot lap on the road course. [img]graemlins/3.gif[/img]

Rumor has it the show judges were less than proficient (and that's putting it mildly). It seems there was a pristine 96 (by pristine I mean a 3 owner, garaged every day, completely STOCK (all stickers, labels, emblems, etc. intact and it was cleaned for 2 weeks to within an inch of it's life) in the under 50,000-mile Stock Class that lost to a car with a dirty-looking hood liner (underside hood insulator) 4 missing OE stickers (hoses fluid reservoirs) and a damper (alternator - water pump - pulleys - engine block) that looked like it had been painted with a can of Krylon. And this car took 1st place? [img]graemlins/3.gif[/img] Kudos to the judges.

Well, good luck tomorrow everyone and just think positive thoughts. I mean, it can't get much worse can it? [img]graemlins/.gif[/img] Oh wait, I hear there's rain in the forcast...j/k.
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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-17-2007, 08:32 AM
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Gee... how do you really feel? Things must have gone poorly after I left yesterday. There was only a couple of spins, 1 crash, and 1 coolant dump.

And I don't think that you can blame it on the event necessarity, how about the people that broke down?

BTW it sounds like you'll have your chance to miss it again next year.
post #3 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-17-2007, 09:14 AM
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BTW it sounds like you'll have your chance to miss it again next year.
And if it's less than a day's drive for you again, I'm sure you will be there. To save $1500 bucks, not have to drive for 6 days for a 1-lapper and keep my blood pressure in check; I'll stick with the local events.

[ 06-17-2007, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Kamchief1 ]
 
post #4 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-17-2007, 09:23 AM
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Bro, I think you could find a closer, better place to road race for $1500
post #5 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-17-2007, 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Kamchief1:


Rumor has it the show judges were less than proficient (and that's putting it mildly). It seems there was a pristine 96 (by pristine I mean a 3 owner, garaged every day, completely STOCK (all stickers, labels, emblems, etc. intact and it was cleaned for 2 weeks to within an inch of it's life) in the under 50,000-mile Stock Class that lost to a car with a dirty-looking hood liner (underside hood insulator) 4 missing OE stickers (hoses fluid reservoirs) and a damper (alternator - water pump - pulleys - engine block) that looked like it had been painted with a can of Krylon. And this car took 1st place? [img]graemlins/3.gif[/img] Kudos to the judges.

Aw, it wasn't really that bad. I came in second in that class, but the guy that beat me really had a nicer car than I did. My car was about as good as I can make it, but I knew I was hosed when I saw the other car. I talked to those people, and that guy has a lift in his garage to clean under that car, they trailered it there in an enclosed trailer, etc. I drove my car there that morning from Kansas City.

I told everyone I was going to protest his "stockness" because his A/C condenser and lines were polished, and he painted under his wheel wells/radiator supports all glossy, but that was really just schtick for the weekend.

I think my car looked pretty good, and I figured I had a good chance at something, but I think he deserved to win. It's all good. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #6 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 09:44 AM
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.....Rumor has it......
Well......there you have it ......

KW
post #7 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 10:09 AM
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I can only imagine how I would have felt after driving 1800 miles, waiting all day and then only get 1 hot lap on the road course. [img]graemlins/3.gif[/img]
If you ever plan to attend an ISSCA Nationals event, don't ever expect more than one or two "hot" (timed) laps on the road course. That's the way they have all been and you shouldin't expect otherwise.

There was almost unlimited "practice" laps allowed in the morning. One of my customers from Cali said he thinks he got 30 laps in before he lost an axle seal. He sure wasn't complaining about not getting to run enough!!!
post #8 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 10:39 AM
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You sure have an awful lot of negative things to say for someone that wasn't there. Considering your brother stormed out of there in a huff a day early, I know where your "information" is coming from. I wouldn't take Kelly's feedback as gospel on how everyone else felt about it. And Smokin'SS still managed to win the ISSCA chartered club challenge even though one of the team members bailed on the rest of the team in the push drags when he left with Kelly.

Yes, there was plenty of room for improvement, but it was far from the bleak picture that you have painted here. And I am glad that I went and participated. Just an opinion from someone that was actually there.
post #9 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 11:03 AM
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For the record, and I'm not a road course, auto cross or show car kinda guy, I spent all day, from 7:30 am to 7:00 pm at the road course/show car event, braved the heat and had a great time. It was nothing short of spectacular! Heck I got to ride 10 laps with Doc and had offers from other drivers as well. Well planned and executed. If you thought it was hot, imagine how hot it was for those who were actually working and keeping it going. Not a thankless job: THANKS YOU ALL I'LL BE BACK!
post #10 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 11:49 AM
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"There was almost unlimited "practice" laps allowed in the morning. One of my customers from Cali said he thinks he got 30 laps in before he lost an axle seal. He sure wasn't complaining about not getting to run enough!!! "


Yeah, I was VERY surprised at the seat time that was offered in the morning. They even let us do a full-speed double lap from time-to-time too!

Gateway is a VERY well-maintained facility, and I was amazed how well everything went, with it all crammed into 2 days. I never felt rushed at all. And they STILL worked in all of that seat time, and a lengthy parade lap session too!

I'm counting down the days until next year!
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