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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-06-2019, 12:02 AM Thread Starter
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Hi I am new to this I don’t know if I’m doing this correctly

Looking for a power programmer for my 96 impala and for my 95 station wagon anybody have one for sale or know where I can purchase one thanks everyone
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Clarify whether you're after an old HPP+ to set rudimentary parameters as speed limiter delete, wheel dia., change shift points, maybe 'perf.' or 'econ' timing. There's more elaborate and effective methods involving custom wiring adapters from the car to a laptop with related software for major alteration to the pcm. They also provide opportunity to destroy your motor if the program is incorrectly altered. Those two years you mention run different versions of OBD- and require different hardware/software if going after the latter approach. You can also order a "mail-order tune" of varying extent and quality from companies or individuals specializing in them.



I would highly recommend reading ALOT through the PCM Programming/Engine Management section of this forum to learn the various schemes, nomenclature, program names, sources, other's experience......

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The money you will invest in a OBD2 Programmer ~$300 will more and over the cost of having BOTH PCMS programmed by a compenent programmer.

You'll have everything dialed in, and you'll be good to go, as opposed to be guessing at every little thing.

That's how I started for my OBD2 vehicles, and then I bought JET programmer for CHEEP off eBay a little while back, and have only modified a few things to my liking, because everything has been set up perfectly.

You money is better spent on someone who is competent and has a track record of doing both styles.

For $hiz and Grins, I'll reply with all the parameters from y '96 Caprice OBD2 PCM in the next thread so you can get an example of HOW MUCH IS INVOLVED, and it's not for the faint!

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Well I was going to post the TXT output of my file, but it's ~120,000 likes long, and we're limited to 10K each post. so.... Not so possible unless I flood this thread.

Clear Image Tri-Ys & Hi-Flow cats >> 2.5" X-Pipe & Magnaflow Tri-Chambers, Mike Harris 4L60E, Circle-D 2,400 RPM TC, All MOOG FT End & Del-A-Lum bushed MOOG CTRL Arms, Eibach FT & New Stock HT rear springs. Hotchkis Sway Bars & End Links, RAISS, 3.73 Gears in Eaton carrier, Dynoshaft & CIA Loop, BMR Trailing Arms, Braided Brake Hoses, Taylor Spiro-Pro Wires, AutoMeter Water Temp & Oil PSI Gauges, Impala Console. ATE Blue Brake Fluid. Skip White distributor. 20's, Z28 Cluster, Corbeau GTS Seat
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If you search around the ISSF long enough, you'll find that pcmforless has a less than glowing reputation for our LT1s.

PCMperformance.com has a far better reputation, and there are cheaper options in excellent standing.
I've used Bryan @ PCMforLess for my initial programming of my LT1 starting back in 12/2004, and then following things here and there as I made modifications; the first being the 3.73 gears 6 months later.

Next I drove out to see Bryan in person when I was living in State College one Saturday while he programmed my 1998 Tahoe.

I also spoke with him for a bit about his Cadilaac CTS-V and Impala, and his time spent perfecting the those tunes as well as the myriad of mail order ones available. Bryan also mentioned the local dealership he works with which uses his services all the time too.

I've had nothing but good luck with Bryan, and would think that especially considering him owning a B-Body, The ISSF would keep him aware of any problems with a program he tweaked.
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Long story short is that there are SEVERAL programmers available. Heck you can start with a mail order tune and then start to tweak it yourself like I have done.

There is also a new (to me) guy out there that I read of recently, although I can't recall his name at the moment, but have his info printed at home that I can update the thread with.

I even have an OBD1 cable setup by Moates.net if yoiu're interested......

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PCM4Less is not the same as was 15-20 years ago. Heard enough complaints to convince me not to use them. Nothing but glowing recommendations for http://pcmperformanc.com including my own.

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Your money is better spent on someone who is competent and has a track record of doing both styles.
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If you search around the ISSF long enough, you'll find that pcmforless has a less than glowing reputation for our LT1s.

PCMperformance.com has a far better reputation, and there are cheaper options in excellent standing.
To clarify:

I'm not speaking about Bryan, Bryan's rep is fine.
If anyone has sullied pcmforless' rep, especially in regards to tuning mid90s LT1s, it's Keith.

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Okay then, certainly as this thread has pointed out; things do change.

This is good information to know, and I'm certainly more than open to thoughts of other programmers for sure.

It's good to have this discussion to bring new information to the top, as opposed to relying on old outdated information that I was relying on.

I appreciate it.

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[To clarify:

"I'm not speaking about Bryan, Bryan's rep is fine."]


+1. And hence the distinction in my sig.

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\'96FWB BUW-Butt Ugly White: PCMPerformance tune, HDFA w/ swissed filter, 1/2 SLP s.s. catback with H- and Flow Super 50s, oem opti rebuilt 3 times, SS Bars, METCO LCA, Airlift 1000, Monroe SS, PowerTrax No-Slip, CTS wheels with +1 rubber. Finally, wait for it... LT-4 knock module!
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