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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-13-2009, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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BIG rear wagon sway bar GP

This is a GP for a super-size wagon rear bar configured like the old HA/HO sedan rear bar--straight across, not contoured to the axle like the OE rear sedan bars.

This "super bar" is 1.5" in diameter--solid, not tubular. This bar MUST be used with aftermarket fabricated tubular rear lower control arms.

There are a number of suppliers of aftermarket control arms if you do not have them now--ensure the design includes reinforced mounting surface and support tubes for any hollow (tubular) product, whether round or square material.

The wagon super-bar cost will be $264, includes attaching hardware, delivered to any 48-state US address.

Currently, plans are to produce only 5 of these bars (the minimum the manufacturer will do), unless more than the current number who have committed to buying one contacts me--please do not wait to the last minute!

The cutoff date for increasing the production run above 5 of the "super bar" for wagons is Wednesday Nov 25th.

There is a smaller solid wagon rear bar currently available, no minimum number of buyers--1-5/16", $240 delivered. This bar is formed like the OE sedan bar, contoured to the axle, and CAN be used with OE lower control arms with the last version OE control arm mounting reinforcements.

All bars are produced in California, and have a hammertone silver powdercoat finish.

If you want in, please PM or e-mail me ASAP.

UPDATE - COMBINATION F/R BAR KITS

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I know a guy down here with a wagon Ill ask him

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Is it possible that the price could go down if more people buy in? If so should we wait and announce it more? Right now it sounds like a good deal. But less money would be a better deal. BTW what is the HA/HO bar?


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BIGGER is not always better,.(inmho)
especially on a stock vehicle,.sometimes adding 1 part of a puzzle without adding all the necessary supporting pieces is not the way to go,..
perhaps some explanations as to the different handling characterisitics the different size bars will cause,.??
There are quite a few folks reading this forum,.that rely on on whats posted here,

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HA/HO bars were made quite a while back by HERB ADAMS,. definitely large bars,. good for drifting,...

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BIGGER is not always better,.(inmho)
especially on a stock vehicle,.sometimes adding 1 part of a puzzle without adding all the necessary supporting pieces is not the way to go,..
perhaps some explanations as to the different handling characterisitics the different size bars will cause,.??
There are quite a few folks reading this forum,.that rely on on whats posted here,

Nick
HA/HO bars were made quite a while back by HERB ADAMS,. definitely large bars,. good for drifting,...

I agree. to use a bar this big the front bar should also be upgraded. As long as a larger front bar is added you will be fine. I think an 1 1/4 would be fine. I think the main point of this bar is that it may be a better bar than some on the market because of the way it is being done. If one were to just add this rear bar with a stock front it would be looser than normal or even looser than using a sedan bar.


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BIGGER is not always better,.(inmho)
especially on a stock vehicle,.sometimes adding 1 part of a puzzle without adding all the necessary supporting pieces is not the way to go,..
perhaps some explanations as to the different handling characterisitics the different size bars will cause,.??
There are quite a few folks reading this forum,.that rely on on whats posted here,

Nick
HA/HO bars were made quite a while back by HERB ADAMS,. definitely large bars,. good for drifting,...
Capo,

No disagreement here. Wagon weight & distribution, higher rear spring rates, higher CG, etc, will all have an effect on how the handling is affected by rear bar addition and/or other changes.

The big bar will want big(ger) tires to take full advantage. A larger front bar (stock is 28mm) should probably be part of the plan--higher rate front springs will work too, as far as re-balancing the car and reducing tendency to oversteer, with the car staying flatter in turns.

HO bars were a HA (Herb Adams) "knockoff"--HO Racing specialized in Pontiac stuff. I think the shop was in Upland CA. The HO rear bar was only produced for sedans, as I recall. First wagon rear bars were Hotchkis, I think.

I'm only running the GP because someone asked me where they could get such a bar for their wagon, and what you see here is the result.

"Caveat emptor"

We've got the requisite 5 for doing the "super bar" GP. E-mail me with address, phone, etc. Will contact each directly regarding payment. Delivery is estimated at 4 weeks--NOT promised!

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smaller bar info

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i'd like some more info on the smaller rear bar you mentioned a few entries up. has this bar been mentioned before? if so, what company is it from, and what is a good match for a front bar? my wagon is a daily drive/work horse, and i'd like to improve the handling for highway cruising including on/off ramp ventures as well as towing. currently i'm running the 1104/929 bilsteins, spohn rear lca's, airlift bags, and a few other minor upgrades. i'd like to pair this bar with a stock front SS bar (in the corner of the garage!) and some decent hardware/bushings. let me know, and thanks for the info and your constant contributions here.

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