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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-06-2017, 10:27 AM Thread Starter
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Fleetwood seatbelts in an Impala?

Does anyone know if the seatbelts from a 94-96 Fleetwood will bolt into an Impala/Caprice? The difference I can see from pictures of the seatbelts are the fronts have the retractors at the base of the B-pillar. They are bolted to the floor where the Impala's end is anchored. The impala retractors are actually in the b-pillar. I think I would also need the lower b-pillar trim from the Cadi if the belts will work.

I'm changing my interior over to black and the Fleetwoods are the only model b/d bodies I've found with black seatbelts. Thanks
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It's been imagined previously. This will get you started. Other info available by Search:

https://www.impalassforum.com/vBullet...eat-belts.html

It boiled down to cost being prohibitive having existing belts rewebbed, painting or dyeing being sketchy/illegal?/hokey/?dangerous, and installing FWB sets being complicated/not smart/requiring laborious interior mods. Seemed like finding similar design belt/retractors from a different model was the best approach.

All the above may have changed in the last 16 years though.

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Thanks for the info, my bad I thought I'd already searched for this topic. I've been immersed in the forum over the past month researching all kinds of stuff. I texted Tully's wife to see what his outcome was.

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I believe the front belts from a 95-96 FW will work. The 94 FW belts are a different animal with two retractors. If the rear belts are the same length or longer than the Impala/Caprice belts you can put them on the Impala/Caprice retractors, and use them. You must use the retractor that is in the same position as the one in that position in the original car, so that they will lock up when you apply the brakes. If the belts are a lot longer, you can have a local car upholstery shop shorten them. I supplied the belts and buckles, and it cost me about $20 for both rear belts. Other than that, having them re-webbed is the only option. If you want custom, the price should not be an issue, because it is not that crazy. It may cost you more if you want all of the warning labels that are on the original belts. You can even supply the hardware from a donor for the new webbing, and minimize your down time.


I had a set of front belts shortened for the rear of my wagon, because the plastic broke on the cheapie buckle clips. I had regular front buckle ends put on instead of the cheapies at the same time. It has worked out well.
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I believe the front belts from a 95-96 FW will work. The 94 FW belts are a different animal with two retractors. ....
Fred - '95-6 has the same 2-belt 'dual retractor' setup as '94. If I take your meaning it sounds like possibly just taking the FW shoulder belt (rearmost retractor assy) and using it to replace the similar B- single belt. The upper b pillar anchor swivel mount is at least configured similarly on both cars. Maybe you can in fact get a black FW complete set and cut the front belt off the male insert (reference OP pic above) and hook it up and retain a single belt design.

It seemed the head scratching decades back was on putting a D-body 2-belt setup in a B-body.

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\'96FWB BUW-Butt Ugly White: PCMPerformance tune, HDFA w/ swissed filter, 1/2 SLP s.s. catback with H- and Flow Super 50s, oem opti rebuilt 3 times, SS Bars, METCO LCA, Airlift 1000, Monroe SS, PowerTrax No-Slip, CTS wheels with +1 rubber. Finally, yes again... LT-4 knock module!
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My error, the 93s are different from the 94-96. 94-96 are the same.


I would not think the belts from a FW would be compatible in any way. You can have the belts re-webbed reasonably, and it makes it a done deal. You get NEW belts that will retract smoothly as well. All of the worry about making the FW belts fit is futile in my opinion. For all the time you put into thinking about adapting them, you can get the job done, and be on the road. This equates using your brain power and time to do something else that is makes the job cost effective. You may even be able to have a local car upholstery shop do it, and then you don't pay for shipping.


The shop that did mine, only took about a half hour to shorten them. I had them apart, and set it up, all they had to do is stitch the belt around the end that attached to the floor. I took one of the old belts with me for comparison, so they could not make a mistake. In your case they can duplicate your belt, or one from a donor car. BTW, the front and rear belts are the same from side to side.

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Thanks for the info, I'm trying to source an upholstery shop that will re-web them.

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If you can not find one that has the webbing, you can buy your own webbing, and take it to them.

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My error, the 93s are different from the 94-96.

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Tell me about it. I spied a '93 FWB in a new dealer lot and pulled in just to look over the new lines. Rather impressive updates all around, and then open the hood and see they're still using some ancient tb sbc complete with towtruck fan. I was so dejected I never looked at another one until 2000 when I needed a new driver and heard they had changed to the same motor as my Imp!

On the belt thing, just like rotors, bumper covers and O2 sensors, I guess the industry pricing for rewebbing has dropped a bunch over the last 15 years.

\'96SS SOB: SSRI, Herter Tune, Tri-Y II, , 3000 Edge, F/HO bars, METCO extendeds with CV MMC, Bilsteins, currently Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta (315/35 rear). Finally, wait for it... LT-4 knock module!
\'96FWB BUW-Butt Ugly White: PCMPerformance tune, HDFA w/ swissed filter, 1/2 SLP s.s. catback with H- and Flow Super 50s, oem opti rebuilt 3 times, SS Bars, METCO LCA, Airlift 1000, Monroe SS, PowerTrax No-Slip, CTS wheels with +1 rubber. Finally, yes again... LT-4 knock module!
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The online places I've found are $50 per belt.

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