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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-07-2003, 03:30 PM
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Ok, since my check doesn't really allow for much fun money per month (not to mention the bills from repairing assorted stuff in the SS), it's gonna take me a while, but I still want to plan this out as good as possible. I was thinking of getting the JVC KD-LX111 El Kameleon HU. I like the way it looks, and for 159 @ etronics.com, it's seems pretty good. But after that, I don't know what else to get. From searching post after post, it seems that the way to go is to replace the speakers with 6.5's, but which ones? Also, I don't know much about this, so if I plan to get 4 6.5's, and later on get some subs, do I need two separate amps, one for the speakers, and one for the subs? As far as amps go, what would be a good budget amp? And finally, as far as subs go, even if it takes a while, I want to put 4 10" behind the back seat. I saw a pic from Hack I think on one of the posts, and that's the way I want to have them, because from the looks of it, you get to keep the trunk space and the spare in place. So, which ones would be a good choice, and how exactly can I get them to fit right behind the beack seat? All in all, I'll probably have about $600 just to spend on equipment if I want to get this finished before X-mas.(sorta like my x-mas gift to myself) So please, fire away with any oppinions/comments/suggestions that y'all might have. Thanks
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-07-2003, 04:48 PM
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Ok, any opinions on these sub's and these 6.5's?
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-07-2003, 04:57 PM
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To put the subs behind the rear seat, you'll have to get hacks baffle board (or make one).

You'll also definatley want an amp to fire the subs (and a pretty healthy one at that if it's going to be running 4). And another sub to run the 6.5's, but that is somewhat of an option. If you have a head unit that puts out some decent power (I think quite a few put out 15rms and 40 or so peak x 4 channels).

Thats how I powered the 6.5's and 6x9's in my car, worked ok, but I think they could have used a small amp.

Also, you might want to do a quick search, but you might only need 2 6.5's (in the doors), and some tweets somewhere. The subs will over power the ones in the back, and you won't hear them much. Also, the ideal set up is to make it sound like the music is in front of you (oposite of what happens when you put bigger speakers in the rear like all cars do).

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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-09-2003, 02:31 PM
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Ok, I've been reading more and more, and yeah, you're right, from the sound of it (no pun intended), the 6x9's become redundant and might even distort the sound, so what about putting 8's in place of the 6X9's? can that be done, and how much work is required to get those in there?
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-10-2003, 12:07 PM
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You first have to ask yourself, what type of sound system your going for SPL or SQ? You can get some quality stereo system if you know which direction your going. For example I'm going sound quality so I'll be running 6.5" PSD components up front and 6x9 DKC 2way in the back. I'll also have 2 12" Alpine subs being pushed by JL 500/1 and the highs with a 300/1. You can find most of this stuff on ebay and that will save you alot of money.
Also, if you have high quality components and speakers like MB Quart, Focal, Boston Acoustics to name a few your subs won't over shadow their performance.
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-11-2003, 07:40 AM
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Make sure you have the right alignment on the subs. I did not see "free air" on those legacy subs, if you plan on putting them on a baffle.

Peter
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-07-2003, 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by bbodyguy:
Make sure you have the right alignment on the subs. I did not see "free air" on those legacy subs, if you plan on putting them on a baffle.

Peter
Many subs will run on a freeair setup eventho they werent designed for such purpose.

Im running some 600W DVC subs ( 4 of em ) and a digital monoblock amp. It sounds awesome.
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 01:24 PM
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My advice is those speakers above are crap. No offense. If I had a 600 dollar budget I would:

a) buy a good cd player for about 150 bucks on ebay. I just got an alpine cda 9805 for about that. good unit.

b) get a decent pair of mb quart or focal separates for the front and mount them in the mdf template that everyone likes. I would go with a psd 6.5 and tweet mb quart setup as you are going to find quart a lot cheaper than focal (in my experience). Budget 160 bucks here for speakers and wood.

c) buy a couple of kicker comp 10s for the trunk. Mount them on a baffle board. ebay has kicker comp 10s all day long for something like 75 bucks a pair shipped. Add in the cost of some 3/4 inch MDF and you are looking at about 85 bucks here tops. If you want two more tens later, that will be easy enough to do. You may find that the two tens are sufficient, however.

d) get a nice 2x50 bridgeable amp for the kickers. You won't need more than that for free airs (assuming it bridges to something like 200 at 4 ohms). This shouldn't be more than 100 bucks. I personally like PPI for the bucks to clean watts ratio.

e) wire the front speakers on deck power until you can afford another amp. When you can I would budget about 160 bucks for a 2x75 or so amp.

f) get rid of your rear speakers. Unhook them. Never listen to them again. If I was on your budget I would just cut some MDF templates and replace the rear speakers with them to fill up the holes. Rear speakers are overrated. You have the tens back there anyway. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

g) Spend the rest of the money on the best speaker wire, power wire, fuse/distro blocks, and RCA cables you can afford. Don't skimp here, although it is tempting to do so on something that will just sit under your carpet. I personally like monster cable a lot. Esoteric Audio is good also. I have used both in my system and am happy. I prefer the Monster stuff, though.

That will probably be around 600, but when you add the other amp for the highs it will be more like 800 (and you will want to).

And don't buy used electronics on ebay, only NIB. I have been burned twice on ebay. Both time buying used electronics that were DOA. Lesson learned.

HTH, I was bored at work today. The bottom line is that I have almost this identical system in my impala and it blows people away. Very cheap, very good sound. Frankly, the kicker 10s can be improved on, but definately not for anything close to that price.
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 04:23 PM
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Consider a H/U that integrates with XM. Xm rules!

Peter
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 07:48 PM
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Yea what UDM-SS said. For a baller on a budget that is a very good start.
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