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Exhaust Manifold Restoration

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I just finished a project to clean up and refinish the exhaust manifolds on my 1995 Impala SS as part of a larger engine rebuild project. Here's what I started with:



These are pretty typical for 25-year-old manifolds that have been on the car for 266,000 miles. There's rust on everything. The check valves are rusted to the pipes, 3 studs were rusted in place and had to be removed by a professional, and the only way to clean up the manifolds is to remove the shields. I was able to remove the air injection pipes from the manifolds without destroying them. The next step was to start removing rust. I did that by soaking the manifolds in a chelation solution (I used Rust 911) for 24 hours. Here's the result:



Better, but there's still work to do. I had to remove the shields to remove all of the rust from the manifolds and to refinish the shields themselves. The shields are secured to the manifolds using part number 10229247 "engine air heat stove drive pins". My parts manual says that 8 are used for both manifolds, but the second design manifolds used on my car had 9. I was able to remove about half of them with a cold chisel (strike from the sides until you can create a gap) and a claw hammer. The heads broke off the others, which meant that the shafts needed to be drilled out using a 9/64" bit. Spot welds are used to join the shields in several places. I drilled out each of those with a 1/8" drill bit. After I separated the shields from the manifolds, I bead blasted the parts.

On to refinishing. Instead of ceramic coating or painting the manifolds, I wanted to try something that would all easy touch-ups. I've read about people having some success with dry graphite, so I decided to try that using Slip Plate Aerosol. The color came a little closer to raw cast iron than the other brands I tried. The shields were primed and painted using Rust-Oleum high heat primer and high heat flat aluminum spray paint. Here's the left side before reassembly:



I used 1/8" aluminum pop rivets to join the shields where they had been spot welded. The drive pins were reinstalled using a ball peen hammer. I was able to save the left side air injection pipe, so it, too, was bead blasted and given a shot of high heat clear paint. I added a new 22048212 check valve, new 10220453 studs (installed with high heat anti-seize), new 11516072 nuts, and a new 10168551 gasket. Here's the finished left side:



The process for the right side was the same. Here are the parts prior to reassembly:



The threads on my right side air injection pipe got stripped when I removed the check valve. I managed to find a new 12552899 pipe to replace it. Here's everything put back together:



Hopefully these will hold up for a few more years. I was lucky in that these original manifolds weren't cracked or damaged, even though the rearmost left side manifold bolt head had broken off at some point. Reproduction right side manifolds are available, but I prefer to restore my original parts when I can.

One last note: I was able to buy all of the GM parts I described here by part number by doing a lot of online searching, but they're getting harder to find since many have gone obsolete. I was able to find replacement drive pins (part number ENC-343, $1.95 each) from Muscle Car Central, but they're just a tad longer than the OEM 10229247 pins. They worked fine, but if you have to drill any pins out you have to make sure you remove all of the old pin so that the hole is deep enough to accept the new pin. I hope this helps!
 
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Splendid write-up, and happy my AIR fitting/tubes found a good home. May dig out my manifolds, and do likewise. How important are those steel spacers under manifold bolts? Should I just replace hardware with ARP? What did you do regarding hardware?
 
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Wow. You do realize now you can never start that motor ever again and ruin that nice work.

...How important are those steel spacers under manifold bolts? Should I just replace hardware with ARP? What did you do regarding hardware?
Immensely. They 'double' the surface area for lateral 'slip' to keep from binding and torsioning the bolts as the manifolds expand and move from operating heat cycles. None are used (needed) on the centerboard 2 connections each side. It's pretty common to hear at least either firewall side of 7 and 8 get snapped, usually both. It's not uncommon to hear the forward bolt of those two rear cylinders up against the firewall have snapped off too. There is apparently way less captured heat in front as I have never heard of problems on the front 6 cylinders, even to the extent that it's pretty much ok to reuse the oem (Gr.5?) special studs on #2 and #4 for the alt. brackets. Any Gr.8 bolts are ok for replacement, and collarheads give even more bearing for the cast spacers. And do't over-torque, just 30# I think. Get tri-metal sandwich Fel-Pro gaskets. Re-snug the first few times running out and about. T'sall I got.

Just in: As mentioned above, ARPs are often the default go-to for many types of fasteners. But I've found real pretty black collarheads at ACE. They also have the top-most area unthreaded and thickened as the Mc-Master Carr in Scott's other linked thread above. And different than the full threaded ARP version from Summit. And obviously you don't want knurled hex or collarheads.
 
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I'm going to use ARP bolts as described in this thread: Aftermarket Exhaust Manifold Bolt Source

The studs are hard to find. I found one NOS 14037662 stud (the front stud on the passenger side), so I bought that. I couldn't find new 10242055 (the other two) studs, so I cleaned up and will re-use the ones I have. I also found some NOS 14057004 nuts and 10231254 spacers. Believe it or not, eBay has been a pretty good place to find the NOS hardware.

There are some other topics where people have described what the spacers are for (thermal expansion, I think) and how they've used shorter bolts to get rid of them. I decided to stick with the original design.
 
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Seems like braces help the ports (and, mounting holes) in line with each other.
As well as their spacing.
 
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There's the urban legend at some point GM took to doing this at the supplier or before assembly, either to mitigate growing reports of cracking, or it relieved the (let's call it) 'lateral strain' when heated up that snapped manifold bolts, or both. The PS on my Impala SS cracked, which 'forced me' to get headers. IDR now whether they were sliced or not. For reference, I buzzed through the ones on my current FWB when I had them off for broken manifold bolts.

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Scott, I can appreciate concern that they may not look 'factory' after all your work restoring them.
 
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There's the urban legend at some point GM took to doing this at the supplier or before assembly, either to mitigate growing reports of cracking, or it relieved the (let's call it) 'lateral strain' when heated up that snapped manifold bolts, or both.
If anyone can give details on these TSBs:

September 94 476603 exhaust manifold bolts
October 96 676119 exhaust manifold crack right hand.

For that matter is there a thread that has full details of the TSBs? This information may be lost if it is not posted somewhere for no cost.
 
#10 ·
Why not cut them completely off then?
 
#12 ·
1. Exemplary time management practices implementing Lean scheduling, coupled with grinder wheel / electrical resource conservation
2. Lazy
 
#11 ·
Any one remember these ?
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I have a set in the tool box. You would crank the jacks in until the bolts were not binding and leave them on until the manifold was back in place.
Without the jacks older unbraced manifolds would often fight you taking the bolts out then would be so out of line they wouldnt go back on.
Bad enough with your own car, worse in a retail setting when you just gave an estimate to re&re a gasket.
Drove us to the worse cast scenario estimates which typically brands you as a rip off shop.

Never have cut an LT1 brace, but have maybe re&re'd 2 sets in my life.
 
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Neither showed up using this site's 889 pages of records. I just sent a request for one of them:

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-Aaaand as you likely found, Consumer Reports states many before 2012 are expired or otherwise not reported any longer.


-And And, this is from a poster in the gminsidenews.com forum:

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-And And And ......

There's a rumor alldata subscription can access them.
 
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It should be noted, just because the manufacturer comes up with a TSB that it is the end all be all solution.

Sometimes it is the most cost effective solution to get them past warranty.
The RH manifold was used last , when 97 "F" ?
They only had to band aid until the emission warranty was up.

Where I was years back we did service and MVIs on 366-427 C60 school buses.
I lost track of the manifold attempts .
Cut the tie bar,
don't cut the tie bar,
drill end holes larger and loctite with less torque.
Tubular stainless manifolds,
Back to thicker cast manifolds.
Finally manifolds with expansion joints.

My point is GM had to keep at it trying for a real solution because the engine was still in production
 
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I am having the same issue with a ford. Class action lawsuit, no recall, just a TSB and extended warranty that expired by time. The redesigned part classified as a "wear" item so the warranty possibilities are near zero. Make a minor change to the engine and claim the new parts wear items from day one. Consumer now on the hook for $1500 repair for a bad design.
 
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Thanks Gerry. After a quarter-century it appears several 'urban legends' are confirmed by that TSB. Response to my request came back yesterday with the same detail level you posted, so I am requesting details on the TSB for 'exhaust manifold bolt' that Z09B4U posted. We'll see.

And just feedback on your intel above:

The RH manifold was used last , when 97 "F" ?
They only had to band aid until the emission warranty was up.


Yah, just '92 Y- to '97 F- I think. Close to, if not the shortest production run for a GM V8?

Where I was years back we did service and MVIs on 366-427 C60 school buses.
I lost track of the manifold attempts .
Cut the tie bar,
don't cut the tie bar,
drill end holes larger and loctite with less torque.
Tubular stainless manifolds,
Back to thicker cast manifolds.
Finally manifolds with expansion joints.


The trifecta of the bolded above plus Gr.8 bolts would seem to be the magic formula????
 
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If someone had the time to do some data mining it would be interesting to see if 95-96 owners are still having cracks. It would be harder to check if the modified manifold is a "cure". I have never seen a question on the forum about "the cut" from someone with a cracked manifold that was cut but many recommendations from members to cut both sides in several places.

I was changing from a 305 to a 350 and ended up looking the two manifolds over. GM seemed to use a more solid design on the 80s parts.

This reminds me of the fan relays. The actual TSB suggests a simpler cheaper solution than the rumor mill.
 
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I'll Be Dam. Another urban legend down. Guys early on replacing bolts with Gr.8 were bottoming and had to get 1 1/4" in one or more locations. And there's reference to actually using adhesive on the threads???????????
 
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Woah! This thread just got pegged in another one (thanks Z09B4U) It brings back memories way back a whole year ago.

And yep, it's going in my binder. Open WORD - Ctrl A - Ctrl C - Ctrl V
 
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IDSee a hidden prompt in the 3 dots. Pray tell, how?
 
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D'oh! The old Alt F thing. That's so simple I forgot it. Thanks.