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i need help i need to know exact torque specs for my head bolts someone told me go 25 50 then 75 ft-lbs then add 30 degrees of torque i want to be correct before i attempt and everyone knows impalaSSforums is the go to site for honest opinions and truthful one
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.........better yet can anyone start a link for torque specs since not all of us is gurus and own repair manuals lol.
 
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I have asked the same ?`s many times before I have used these values, However, it is with ARP Head bolts not sure if that will make a difference or not on what you use also apply Thread sealer on all bolts:

50, 60, 70, and then 75 or 77 thats it.

after doing the last 75 or 77 Go around and re torque again with the same 75 or 77 just for a double final check...
I might add,Its a good practice to run a Thread chaser in the threads of the block just to clean them all up FWIW...

There is a cross section while torquing perhaps someone can give ya that... Hope this helps...

[ 05-24-2007, 07:22 AM: Message edited by: Hogs ]
 
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WELL GANG I TAKE IT THAT ANGLE TORQUE VALUES ARE UNKNOWN THANKS FOR THE INFO USING ARP AND THANKS FOR THE INFO ABOUT USING THE SEARCH LINK BUT I DIDNT FIND ANYTHING USEFUL OH WELL ILL JUST GO WITH THE 50 60 75 AND ADD 30 DEGREES ...........
 
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LOL,

What Larry said.

Unless the head gasket and head bolt manufacturers specifically told you to add 30 degrees DON"T.

Giving no torque spec and a degree of turn is done when you are bolting multiple SOLID (relatively incompressable) pieces together. Many things effect "torque" readings (bad threads, oil vs dry threads, inaccurate torque wrenches, dynamic vs static friction, etc). So if we are bolting solid pieces together I can tell you to turn X degrees and know exactly how much the bolt is stretched. I then know exactly how much clamping force you have. This is why they do connecting rods this way. (main STUDS and other things can be done this way).

Standard head gaskets are more like springs than solids. So adding torque by degrees is only compressing the gasket more than the original designers expected. Tighten them to the proper torque spec. No extra degrees, nothing. If anything after 10 or so heat cycles, retorque to the same number.

if you add the 30, you will probably be close to 100-110 ft lbs of torque on those bolts.

GL HTH
 
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ok im not typing in caps lock thanks for the reminder ^^^^^ shame on me and my key board hahaha. but took youre advice and did not add the angle torque of 30 degrees, i went with 50 -60-77 and damn hitting that 77 was a little difficult i got a lil spooked especially when it came to the shorter head bolts out side the head near exuast damn i thought i was going to snap something so i took my sweet ass time .....oem bolts is pricy enough for me guys well the heads are on and ill be back on the road soon ...thanks for the corrections there "larry"