Missing the optional chrome wheels & moonroof

 

Will someone pay that??

 

Buyout prices always gotta be ridiculous. That's what they are there for.

 

5k tops

 

Wow. That's harsher than me. I was thinking maybe 7.

 

I would never buy from a dealer. They think any car that has been taken care of is so unusual that they have the only one like it.

Of course people are nuts, most would rather pay the dealer this price but would balk if a private seller wanted 1/2 of that price.

 

So just clicked the ad:

Ended: Nov 06, 2013 12:17:05 PST
Price: US $16,995.00 [ 1 offer ] Declined

I wonder if there was a Buy It Now Price for an even bigger chuckle.

So, if that was not just some bogus straw offer by the seller themself, then I surmise either a Japanese, Chinese or Saudi Arabian (well ok maybe Russians now) would be the only ones offering that much.

I didn't check whether this one has been re-listed, but from past ads like it don't they usually just run a continuous cycle?

 

What does "window sticker" mean?

 

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1466723@N21/pool/

A layman's 'Build Sheet' pasted inside the passenger window to show options and related retail pricing for that car. What do they call them in EU? How's your hunt going?

 

heheh, same car:
Gesswein Motors SD - http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&listingId=132945794&aff=aol

 

build sheet?:

We dont have here (in europe) such things as far as i know.

 

I see! Thanks!

 

I have built my business off of these cars. You would be surprised what people pay for the car that they have to have. Good luck finding that car in perfect condition for anything less than 12k. Im not saying its impossible but it will take take an awful long to find it for less.... if its perfect. I agree however 17 is steep for that particular car.

 

i still have the build sheet for my 75k mile 86 c10. cost $27 for a dome light!!! OUTRAGEOUS.

o and on a side note i was one day shy of tradin my spray painted home built 87 v20 chevy 4x4 for a 96 fleetwood that had of all things a tear in the drivers seat... man that just made it so undesireable haha. all in how ya wheel n deal when its private party.

 

I only buy from private parties from CA to FL to NY and while the mark up I make is not that high. Private party sales almost always make for a better resale car. Not to mention Fleetwoods and Roadmasters are hard to come by at dealer auctions.

I pay quite a bit for them but its worth it. I make sure they land in the hands of people who truly appreciate them and therefor are preserved. For example the 95 museum quality 18k mile triple black v4p I just bought..... Well lets just say I had to have it and I payed what was necessary... I never thought I'd spend so much on a Fleetwood or any bbody/dbody for that matter (besides a real 66 Biscayne 427 which may or may not even exist any more) but I understand just how rare the Fleetwoods are and that I may never have the chance again. I mean its exactly what I've always wanted (besides not having factory chrome wheels) a triple black 95 or 96 Brougham V4P with the security pack and no sunroof with under 20k miles with only one owner and the window sticker.

Out of the roughly 12k built between 94-96 how many were 95s or 96s? 2/3s would be 8k? Then how many became 6 doors, stretches, hearses, and flower cars? Another 3rd? Leaving what 5-6k? Sedans. Then how many were triple black V4Ps? A few hundred? Maybe? How many had the awesome security pack with the locking license plate? Then how many still have under 20k miles and are from a climate like Southern California? If there is even a handful like it id be surprised as ive been looking for 7.5 years almost every day and have never come across one like it. I'd venture to say this was a once in a lifetime opportunity for a car that probably has no equal. I found the car hours after it went up on the upland California craigslist as I search the whole country almost every day for ones to bring back to MA to sell. The man knew what he had, as part of a large collection, and I paid that premium!

 

Wow I just re-read that and I really rambled on there didnt I? Haha

 

It was interesting Reading. I got that license plate lock on my car. Is that part of a security package then??

 

Yes it consisted if the locking plate and an alarm. RPO code V4R I am pretty sure. Take a look on your SPID label on the trunk. I think it was only available as a package and not separately. I also believe it is the only car to ever offer such a feature (the locking plate that is) though it would have been put to much better use during the 70's gas crisis when people were siphoning gas in parking lots and driveways.

On an unrelated note, I am very impressed by your English. Yourself, and JimSS, have a much better understanding of English than most of my friends do stateside!

 

I can see that code on the label! I don't know anything about an alarm though??

Thanks for the compliment about the language. I guess I will have to thank Hollywood and internet for that☺

 

I've never heard the alarm myself but it was included in the package. I also have never seen any red blinking lights anywhere. Try this, leave your windows down, stand outside and lock the car using the fob. Maybe hit the locks twice?? Then reach through the window and hit the unlock button on the door (not the key fob). That would trigger any modern alarm I am familiar with. I will also give it a try and let you know what happens on my end.

 

If all else fails...

Sit down for an evening and read the owner's manual AND have the Factory Service Manual present. (Both were included.) All will be revealed and not as in a dream. The answers are there.

When you finally do hear the alarm you will know it. Be certain you know how to silence it as it uses the very loud four note horns. Do not wait until it goes off and you don't know how to reset it.

I am enjoying the posts about this car. Wondered how long it would take for folks to sleuth out the lineage on this Fleetwood. Mattias got a very good deal and a car in much better condition than I received it. Yes, the trunk pull down actually works...NOW (among other things). The owner after Elias kept more goodies than I ever knew about, like the chrome rims, etc. The car went to Sweden with all systems working.

She is in good hands.

Richard Snipes
4501 Safari in Jax, FL

 

Richard: I read about the alarm system but as far as I can tell it doesn´t say how to reset it?? Only what to do it it doesn´t work! Hmm it´s time to change my sig picture!

 

What a fantastic picture! Chrome wheels make such a difference on these cars. Especially the black ones. Do a lot of people ask what the car is over there?

 

Yes black and chrome is always a good mixture! To answer your questions-No they don´t usually. The people who aren´t interested in US cars don´t care and the people who are probably know the model. And then we swedes aren´t as open as you americans. We shut up and mind our own business. I try hard not to be like that!

It will be different if you go to other countries where the US car hobby isn´t that big. THEN you got alot of attention. It´s actually enough to just take the bridge over to Denmark.

If you meet another yanktank on the road you always wave to each other. I like that

 

That's so cool man. Like corvette drivers over here, we wave at each other.

I'd love to bring a Broughammer to Ireland and leave it there. The attention it would draw whenever I go home would be like having a Countach over here haha!

The roads are so small though it would be tough to handle. Not to mention petrol prices are over 2 euro per liter. With a 90 liter gas tank that's a 180 euro fill up I think. And in USD that's what 240 bucks a tank? It's costs about 70 here in MA and that's hard to stomach already haha!

 

You are lucky guys In many EU countries they have made it almost impossible to own and drive a Classic US car with V8. Austria is worst to my knowledge.

 

Is the price of the liter fairly standard across Europe? I'd imagine Ireland pays high prices because of location and and a small market with the country being so small but I am only speculating.

The tax in Ireland is also based off of engine size which makes it impossible to run a medium sized v8 (like the lt1) unless the car is 20 years old or more.

Insurance works the same. It goes by engine size. That is so rediculos too! A caddy with a v8 is deemed as a bigger threat than a little 4 banger lotus! Just crazy.....

 

Yes I think the price on gas are roughly the same. Norway has that same tax and they also pay tax per horsepower!
I read an example a few years ago. A new Corvette costed then 500.000Kr in Sweden. In Norway the same car costed 1.000.000. A difference of 72.880$. Talk about killing the hobby. Insurance I don´t know anything about. I got a Classic car Insurance both on my Lincoln and the Caddy. I pay 125$ per year full Insurance.

In Austria you have to pay full roadtax for the whole year even if you don´t drive it. You also need a logg book where you write when and even why every time you want to use the car! There´s more craziness but I forgot!

That can never happen here. (knock on wood!) We have strong organisations working for our cause.