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UMI Performance would like to be your Suspension Supplier

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#1 ·
Hello Everyone,

Ryan here from UMI Performance... We have been a sponsor here for a few years now and I am sure many of you are running our components now.

As many of you have seen with suspension products and any product for that matter the competition grows all the time and companies try to find ways to battle against each other. Pricing is usually the first thing to drop to gain a sale and this hurts all businesses when they go too low. We have always tried to be competitive in our pricing on suspension items and I feel we have done a good job at it, many new companies have surfaced to the market lately and trying to constantly battle pricing has been tough. UMI has actually grown very quick the past few years and we run a decent sized operation. I started the business back in 2002 as a hobby for extra cash and every since then the company has boomed beyond my expectations. Currently UMI operates out of a 35,000 sq. ft building with 30 employees. We do all operations of our products in our facility from start to finish and we are very proud of this.

Why am I posting this you may ask? Well I recently noticed a company closing up there doors, this was a company that was quickly becoming a competitor for us in the B-Body market. And even though this company was becoming a competitor it is sad to see any business close their doors, regardless of pricing battles, competition ect. I do truly mean that, in the 9 years that I have ran UMI we have been through some tough times, times of struggles and times when we didn't know if we were going to survive. So I feel for any business that has gone through these struggles. It is tough out there and it takes a extreme amount of time and dedication to survive.

UMI would like to be supplier of products to the Impalassforum and I would like to know what we can do to help better supply products to you?

Currently we do not offer a lot of products for the B-Body platform but we will be expanding that soon but slowly. One item we have never offered is fixed length extended arms but we can build them very easily. We also have sway bars in the works right now and I would interested in offering a GP to get them in production quicker. Interest in this?

So let me ask, what made you choose others over UMI products?

Thanks for your time!
Ryan
 
#2 ·
Ryan,

Great post on your company and information! It would be great to see you expand your products for more B-Body applications. One thing that is now missing in the market (due to that company closing) is the mentioned rear control arms, fixed/adjustable, extended. Of course more suspension parts will be great to see too.

Jim
 
#3 ·
Hi Jim,

Thanks for the reply.

Well we do offer rear control arms now in standard length and extended but extended are adjustable only. We do not however offer a fixed length extended control arm and the reason is we would like to know the exact length to extend them. Some companies offer 1/2" some 5/8" and some 3/4".. .what length have you found to be best? We no longer have an Impala here to test the exact extended length. Our Roadmaster and Caprice won't help with this design.

Thanks!
Ryan
 
#4 ·
Ryan,

Well it depends on what guys are looking to do. Some guys want to extend it some, but without having to buy an extended driveshaft.

Where are you located? You can use my Impala as a test article and just leave the parts on her :D

Jim
 
#6 ·
Ryan,

Well it depends on what guys are looking to do. Some guys want to extend it some, but without having to buy an extended driveshaft.

Where are you located? You can use my Impala as a test article and just leave the parts on her :D

Jim
Jim,

5/8" seems to be best... this is what we make our adjustable ones too now and it has worked great so far.


I'd definitely be in for a sway bar. What diameter will you be making them in?
Currently projects are a 1" solid rear and a 1-3/8" tubular front.

Thanks!
Ryan
 
#8 ·
I'd love to see some rear crossmember support bars similar to those in SS chevelles that bolt from the LCA to the UCA pocket. Anyone who has had the frame off an SS can see how flimsy the rear xmember is and then all that force is being applied to it in turns through the UCA's I am sure it is flexing a bit.


Front control arms possibly at a better price than competitors?
 
#11 ·
I don't know if your company can do this but we need rubber body bushings specifically the ones in the mueller mod.
Unfortunately we are dedicated to fabrication work such as control arms, sway bars ect. Thanks for checking though.


I'm running your LCAs on my one of my roadmaster wagons. I got them because I had someone in the USA I could ship to. I am running competitors products on my other wagon, my sedan and my brother's wagon because of at the time, I was informed you would only ship UPS. It looks like that has changed.


The stock rear bar is 26 mm, or just over 1". Unless it's a different shape or design -like the "wolf" bars on the G-body- it might be worth it to develop a larger bar.

As far as products, I think a lot of people would be glad to see stock length LCAs with an extra set of holes forward of the stock location with supplied spacers in order to mount a stock swaybar to a Station Wagon.
Hello, Thanks for the feedback. We have always used USPS as well for shipping. However a few years back we did limit our USPS shipping due to too many lost packages with them... maybe this was when you spoke with us and I apologize. Since then we know use UPS Standard, USPS and UPS World Ease. UPS World Ease allows us to charge brokerage and taxes up front at discounted rates... it has been working very well for us and many customers in Canada have came back and used it again.

My mistake on the rear bar, it is a 1-1/8" we are working on. 1" is the A and G body. Thanks!

Ryan
 
#10 ·
So let me ask, what made you choose others over UMI products?
I'm running your LCAs on my one of my roadmaster wagons. I got them because I had someone in the USA I could ship to. I am running competitors products on my other wagon, my sedan and my brother's wagon because of at the time, I was informed you would only ship UPS. It looks like that has changed.

Currently projects are a 1" solid rear and a 1-3/8" tubular front.
The stock rear bar is 26 mm, or just over 1". Unless it's a different shape or design -like the "wolf" bars on the G-body- it might be worth it to develop a larger bar.

As far as products, I think a lot of people would be glad to see stock length LCAs with an extra set of holes forward of the stock location with supplied spacers in order to mount a stock swaybar to a Station Wagon.
 
#12 ·
I know the fixed extended rear would be nice. Im in the market not for a nice set and still undecided on who to get. Also a set of good front upper and lower tubular control arms would be wonderful at a reasonable price. I can never understand why A&G body cars are so much cheaper. If you build a good product and sell it for a good price. They would sell easily.
 
#14 ·
If you are serious about being a B-body suspension parts supplier and are willing to put a little reading time in I suggest you do a search on everything a forum member named "Navy Lifer" Bill Harper posts about on the suspension on these cars. His posts are always a wealth of knowledge.

Otherwise, front control arms (that use at least the 5/8" balljoints), spindles (custom spindles would allow even bigger ball joints), frame supports and rubber body bushings (urathane has its place but not as cushions on a dailly driver).
 
#15 ·
Front Tubular Upper and Lower Control Arms
Rear Fixed Length Extended Lower Control Arms
Tubular Transmission Crossmember
Swaybars

-Mike
 
#16 ·
+4 on the sway bars! I think there is only 3 or 4 vendors with them now, it keeps the prices to high like you have mentioned

Front control arms, However, they probably wont get sold if the pricing is similar to others that have supplied them in the past.

This is probably a long shot but what about LSx transmission crossmember? any LSx conversion parts? ill be your test dummy :)
 
#18 ·
you make some very nice stuff. i agree that a wagon swaybar would be a big seller.
 
#19 ·
Tubular front control arms for sure!

You come out with a good product priced lower than your competition, I guarantee your sales will be insane
 
#20 ·
Thanks everyone for the replies.

Sway bars and fixed length extended rear control arms are the first things to come out and what we are working on now.

The probably with front A-Arms is we would not be the cheapest on these items. We retail the A-Body set for $900 for a set of four right now and price is going to $950 shortly.. but in the A-Body market we are low compared to the other top quality companies.

I will keep you posted on the sway bars, I can have pricing and availability here shortly.

Thanks!
Ryan
 
#21 ·
I still say Chevelle SS style rear X member support bars. It's right up your alley (basically no different than building a control arm). Everybody on here likes to upgrade to beefier control arms but hardly anybody has these support bars, beefier bars are great but not when the mounting point itself flexes. I believe they would be a good/cheap upgrade that would be worth doing for anybody with aftermarket rear control arms. I'll probably be fabbing up a set for myself but it would be much easier if I could just buy them lol
 
#22 ·
^ that's a cool idea.

I don't know, but I'm not sold on the need for tubular control arms cause I'm not sure you'd get your R&D back out of them. There have been a few offerings in the past, not sure any of them are still available and if I'm right there's probably a reason for that...
 
#23 · (Edited)
i also didnt answer part of your origional question, i was looking at other lower control arms because mainly .......... price

also other companies offset the upper mounting point to fix some problems which i dont think you guys do
 
#24 ·
= Umi

i purchased a bunch of your stuff on my old f bodies and it was all well built and well priced. so far i bought 5/8" extended control arms and a 2/3 drop for this impala. i will be in the market for the front swaybar and body bushings soon, and would consider lightweight bumper supports and anything else not too pricey that bolts on easily.
 
#26 ·
Well, I'm supprised no-ones mentioned it yet, but if you made rear UCA's with the mounting bracket offset to prevent binding (like C3Fab did) that would be something I'd buy. I'm sure theres someone on here who has them taht could elaborate on what i mean.
 
#27 ·
Well damn, this thread died fast. Anymore news?
 
#29 ·
Hello,

Well here is where we are at.

We have front and rear sway bars almost done and I am looking to do a group purchase on sway bars, any interest?

Rear bar is a 1-1/8" solid and will include new hardware for aftermarket arms. The front bar is 1-3/8" tubular and will include sway bar bushings with new clam shells as well as end links. Group purchase price will be $275.00 for front and rear.

Thoughts on this?

We also have non-adj. extended length control arms in the works as well.

Thanks!
Ryan